Does the artist dictate what the audience should experience? Does the audience assign meaning to the work? — Noble Dust
We don’t rewrite a poem, but we may misinterpret or we may give new meaning — Thinker
So, who's in charge? Does the artist dictate what the audience should experience? Does the audience assign meaning to the work? Did Duchamp free us from a world where the artist dictates meaning, or did he perpetuate that model under a new guise? — Noble Dust
Many artists I've heard interviewed are completely inarticulate about their work. — T Clark
“A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest”. — Thinker
Yes, that's exactly it; there's nothing to say. So why do so many artists blather on about their shit? There's a pervading philosophical notion behind the assumption. — Noble Dust
It seems to be a bullshit post-modern thing about knowing your sources, because, you know, there's no such as originality or unknowing, inarticulable knowing. — John
A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest — Thinker
he made people step back and think about what constitutes art, but then he has been followed by many mediocre imitators whose work is tedious in my view. — John
So, who's in charge? — Noble Dust
So why do so many artists blather on about their shit? T — Noble Dust
Ok, I think I agree, but why? Why is Duchamp not right? Why is this art rather than that? Am I interpreting you correctly here? Was Duchamp a boon or a blight? — Noble Dust
I think Duchamp's Fountain established the artist's right to say "this is art" within the 'art world' — Cavacava
Edit: also, is this inarticulacy a timeless trait, or a factor of the the modern world we live in? Was Da Vinci equally inarticulate? — Noble Dust
Yes, that's exactly it; there's nothing to say. So why do so many artists blather on about their shit? There's a pervading philosophical notion behind the assumption. — Noble Dust
I don't know what the answer is; perhaps the very nature of art itself precludes the possibility of a definitive answer. — John
I like to think the work speaks for itself. But of course that's always in a context, a work doesn't speak in a void: — mcdoodle
I would mention that there is a third layer of people: the commentariat, who are also often the funders of public work, — mcdoodle
Re "who is in charge" of what gets created, it obviously depends. — Terrapin Station
But once you release your work, meaning is out of your hands, and no matter what you do, there are going to be tons of interpretations that bear little resemblance to the meaning you personally had in mind. — Terrapin Station
Things are art or not interpretively and via social convention. That was more or less the whole point of The Fountain (as well as 4'33"). — Terrapin Station
I wondered about your term "new classical music", what does that mean? — Cavacava
Why would you deny artists the satisfaction? — T Clark
I think you are really asking what is art and what is it worth? — Thinker
I think Duchamp's Fountain established the artist's right to say "this is art" within the 'art world'*. It also was the first piece of Conceptual art as such. His basic ideas were not picked up until Andy Warhol went to work, and after him Joseph Kosuth laid the theoretic foundation for Conceptual art, whose penultimate culmination (at least for me) was the placing of instructions on the wall of a museum as the work of art. — Cavacava
Artists are the leaders of civilization. — Thinker
I'm a musical artist; I rarely explain anything I do to anyone. — Noble Dust
This thread is about artists, not engineers. — Noble Dust
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