• Metaphysician Undercover
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    That's put out there by Roger Penrose, and he does seem to have a pretty good understanding of the problems of metaphysics.
  • unenlightened
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    Yeah. It's interesting that there is great scepticism of quantum effects in biology, and yet getting them into our phones is a realistic goal.
  • Metaphysician Undercover
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    Generally speaking, people live under the illusion that they have control over their phones, and the paranoia that if they install it into their brains it will have control over them. We are conditioned with an internal /external boundary which supports a "self", but it's also in some ways self-contradicting.

    We assume some control over our interactions with the external, and control over the critical aspect, which is what we allow into the internal, from the external (no vaccines please). However, to subsist we must allow the external to penetrate, and the effects of toxicity make us realize that we really have no control over the internal. And that is where "self" becomes "self-contradicting". Once the toxin is internal, it has gained control. That realization may manifest as irrational fear toward the external, paranoia. So the "self" is supported by control over the external, but it's contradicted by lack of control over the internal, and the contradiction is enhanced by the need to allow the external into the internal to enable subsistence. This could produce an unhealthy fear of "the wrong choice", which is lack of self-confidence.

    I believe this lack of self-confidence underlies the fear and skepticism toward applying quantum principles to biology, a move which could make GM look like child's play. We see the tip of a huge iceberg of ethical dilemma, and avoid it like the plague.

    The majority says stay away, all you scientists ought to just go back to working on nuclear fusion, find the free energy which would make life a breeze, or something else useful like giving my phone more abilities. But there's always a few who want the fountain of youth, and how could you stop them from proceeding?
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