what exactly are you referring to when you say "evolution"? — I like sushi
but the general outlook you’ve outlined – this along with the Gaia hypothesis – can easily be found in keeping with notions such as that of an Anima Mundi. One in which a pre-Abrahamic notion of Logos pervades all that is – be it living or nonliving. — javra
Perhaps you need to say more about what an evolutionary trend is? — J
Thesis
The evolution of the Earth, over 4.6 billion years, has given rise to the laws and principles that regulate both the natural environment and our existence. Within these evolutionary trends, we can find the essence of the ethical principles and moral norms that humanity seeks to identify. Therefore, understanding the evolution of our planet can help us establish and explain the foundations for more harmonious and sustainable coexistence. — Seeker25
How do these ideas fit in with your belief that we can find the essence of the ethical principles and moral norms that humanity seeks to identify within these evolutionary trends? — Agree-to-Disagree
So, which ethical principle were you talking about here? — Corvus
Biological evolution is not inclusive for all. Individuals being weeded out of the gene pool by natural selection is one of the important trends of evolution. — wonderer1
You can correlate the evolved traits you assign to humans with those you find desirable, or ethical, all day, but I don't think it validates your thesis — ToothyMaw
Couldn’t we also talk about trends of destruction, suffering, and death? — J
I wonder if the reliance on 'evolutionary principles' here may be leaning into an idealization. — Wayfarer
Ethics, it seems to me, is sui generis, arising through the evolution of human beings but once ethics came to be it created its own driving forces, — Fire Ologist
I think you need to give a description of these trends in value-neutral terms, so we can decide for ourselves whether they must necessarily be beneficial for humanity. — J
Respect for life — Seeker25
Promotion of health and well-being. — Seeker25
Coexistence in diversity, tolerance, and dialogue. Encouraging cooperation and minimizing confrontation. — Seeker25
I just don't see how this fact justifies the belief that looking to these trends for our morality is valid or would be effective. — ToothyMaw
How do you move from how things are to how things ought to be? — Banno
Even if "Science explains how things are and how events have unfolded over the past 4.6 billion years; these are facts" we cannot conclude from that alone how things ought to be. — Banno
I think what needs to be re-evaluated is this mentality itself. Clearly, the most moral thing is to prevent future people who suffer, but this is not following the dictates of evolution. And about these dictates of evolution, that is a complete fallacy (appeal to nature/naturalistic fallacy) to think that a sort of "law of nature" (evolution) is something we should act upon. — schopenhauer1
Ok, I thoroughly grant that to claim all this as some sort of definitive grounding for what ethics is and what ought to be would be fully sentimental, rather than rational. — javra
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