This is a false dilemma: either everything has a reason or nothing has a reason. Deniers of the PSR do not claim that nothing has a reason; only that not everything has a reason. Most people accept the laws of logic, and accept logical inferences as valid reasons. But they might still also believe that some brute facts exist without reason. — A Christian Philosophy
But gravity means more than that. — Fooloso4
What does this mean in terms of PSR? The observation that a rock falls is not a reason for or explanation for it falling. If explanation reaches a dead end then either we have failed to find the reason or there is no reason. — Fooloso4
You did not address the problem. Observing that a rock falls is not a reason for why the rock falls. — Fooloso4
Then, if we observe a rock falling there would be no reason why we hadn't observed the rock not falling. — RussellA
I agree. It seems to me that, based on the reasoning above, there has to be a bedrock of facts which have no further explanation. — flannel jesus
The traditional answer is: we can posit the existence of a First Cause which has existence necessarily or as an essential property. The existence of this First Cause is grounded by logical necessity (reason type 1 in the OP) because to deny the existence of a thing with necessary existence is a contradiction. Then this First Cause also serves to explain the existence of everything else as their cause, direct or indirect. This summary should serve to explain why there is anything at all.This is question begging. It assumes what is in question, namely whether everything in existence can be explained. These three types of reason are based on the existence of things. They do not explain why there is anything at all. — Fooloso4
Well, if we rejected the idea that there is a reason then we would not look for for one, but it does not follow that there must be one. — Fooloso4
Rejecting the idea that there is a reason would go against our reasoning process, specifically induction which demands sufficient reasons.That is the point. Where is the data that is sufficient to conclude that everything must have a reason? — Fooloso4
I did not give the specific explanation but I gave the guidance on how to find the explanation. Here are the quick steps to work out the specific explanation:It does not explain why there are laws of nature. — Fooloso4
The laws as we currently know them may be only descriptive, but as per the PSR, there still must be a prescriptive explanation for why matter and energy behave as described by those laws.does not demonstrate that those laws are prescriptive rather than descriptive. — Fooloso4
I am not sure I quite see that an explanation is a proposition.
I'm not a fan of 'grounding' as it is not clear to me that it's a good alternative to explanation.
For example, let's say I decide to order a pizza because I'm hungry. I am the cause of my decision. But I could also say that my decision was grounded in my hunger, as that was why i made the decision. — Clearbury
Principle of Sufficient Reason (PSR): For any thing that exists or is true, there is a sufficient reason for it to exist or to be true. — A Christian Philosophy
The reason we observed the rock falling is that it fell and we were there to see if fall. There may be various reasons why it fell and various reasons why we were there to see it fall. It does not follow from the fact that we can posit reasons for why we observed the rock fall, that there is a reason for everything. — Fooloso4
The traditional answer is: we can posit the existence of a First Cause which has existence necessarily or as an essential property. The existence of this First Cause is grounded by logical necessity ... — A Christian Philosophy
Rejecting the idea that there is a reason would go against our reasoning process ... — A Christian Philosophy
(3) By elimination, they are designed. — A Christian Philosophy
... there still must be a prescriptive explanation for why matter and energy behave as described by those laws. — A Christian Philosophy
In conclusion, the PSR is valid, but only applies to observable facts, events and truths. — RussellA
Suppose a star explodes 10 light years from us. It will not be observable to us for 10 years. If the PSR only applies to observable,facts does that mean that with regard to that event the PSR is not valid and will not be valid for 10 years? — Fooloso4
Therefore the PSR cannot be applied to the unknown. — RussellA
Why think "necessary" is an ontological (de re) property of any being? The concept of "necessary" applies to logic: e.g. in a valid deductive argument, the conclusion follows necessarily from the premises. I'm aware that Alvan Plantinga has proposed that God has de re necessity, but it seems to me a contrivance.The traditional answer is: we can posit the existence of a First Cause which has existence necessarily or as an essential property. The existence of this First Cause is grounded by logical necessity (reason type 1 in the OP) because to deny the existence of a thing with necessary existence is a contradiction. Then this First Cause also serves to explain the existence of everything else as their cause, direct or indirect. This summary should serve to explain why there is anything at all. — A Christian Philosophy
Causes are one kind of explanations, but there are also constitutive explanations: the constituents of water (hydrogen and oxygen) explain water. Grounding covers both.Causes seem to be what explain things. — Clearbury
When the light is released into the space, why doesn't it fall to the ground? — Corvus
While it is true that photons have no mass, it is also true that we see light bend around sources with high mass due to gravity.
In a sense it does, as light bends around sources with high mass due to gravity.
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While it is true that photons have no mass, it is also true that we see light bend around sources with high mass due to gravity. — RussellA
But the light bends around sources with high mass due to gravity. — Corvus
This sounds like a contradiction. Surely PSR doesn't allow contradictions for the conclusions.On the one hand "light bends around sources with high mass due to gravity" and on the other hand "gravity causes light to bend around sources with high mass". — RussellA
These are just repeating the same thing for what had been said in the first part of the sentence using because. It is not saying anything new or different.In the same way that "the reason he is ambitious is because he is driven" and "the reason the job was complex was because it was complicated." — RussellA
Gravity is a scientific concept which must apply to every cases in the universe if it is true."Gravity" is more a synonym than a reason why light bends around sources with high mass. — RussellA
This sounds like a contradiction. Surely PSR doesn't allow contradictions for the conclusions. — Corvus
These are just repeating the same thing the first part of the sentence using because — Corvus
Gravity is a scientific concept which must apply to every cases in the universe if it is true. — Corvus
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