Or, if you'd like, think of it as a team at your workplace -- but rather than having a boss all the workers set the rules for the workplace. This would be a workers collective. — Moliere
But, really, I'd emphasize doing some of the readings rather than listening to me. You'll get ideas of your own that way and the theorists explain themselves in better detail than these little maps I'm trying to make :) — Moliere
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Trade unions organize the workers at a place not owned by the workers, whereas a workers collective owns the place and runs it in accord with whatever decision-making process they set up. — Moliere
assumptions of human nature — NOS4A2
because they believe humans require authority and absolutism to keep their wildest impulses in check — NOS4A2
Human progress is a delusion. — Martijn
With all due respect, you are ignorant of anything else as far as first hand experience. And that is a fact. — Outlander
5,000 years of recorded human history where wars are waged and the stronger or larger force takes and destroys from the weaker or smaller force is an "assumption?" — Outlander
5,000 years of recorded human history where wars are waged and the stronger or larger force takes and destroys from the weaker or smaller force is an "assumption?"
Like, it's just something I randomly made up one day? Are you serious? :rofl:
Bruh. Nah. Just nah. Come on, you're not that dense.
Goldman was an anarchist and feminist. While she never said the exact words, she conveyed the idea that revolutions should be joyous and embrace personal freedom, including the freedom of self-expression. It's a call for a revolution that uplifts and empowers individuals, not one that stifles them or demands absolute conformity.
↪boethius Heh, yeah we don't need to simplify to that point. I think we basically agree -- I was just peeved you'd say that no one would ever say such and such, and so asked you to provide something similar that might be better. But it's no worries now, and it doesn't really matter. — Moliere
Ok, I am on board with this. I despise the mega corporations where you not able to get in touch with a human and only get automated responses. — unimportant
What you write pretty much is what I had hoped anarchism would be. I am ready to sign up. — unimportant
I am also a big advocate of open source technology which seems along the same lines of decentralization and power to the people. — unimportant
Grass roots projects that work a million times better than the 'too big to fail' bloat of most capitalist garbage. — unimportant
Who cares that cars are better when all cars do is make us slower, tired, and ravage nature? — Martijn
too much virtue signalling — boethius
Identity politics appears to have polluted all these so called far left movements.
Is it not a product of capitalist thinking? I am reminded of the old term of spiritual materialism for religious epithets. This could be called identity materialism and a by product of the rot of capitalism. — unimportant
Remember when we were supposed to celebrate the first black president, even though he disappointed the hopes of every progressive who campaigned for him? Remember when supporters of Bernie Sanders were relentlessly tarred as sexist (and racist, somehow) for opposing Hillary Clinton?
This style of politics continued to define liberalism during the Donald Trump administration. While women lost abortion rights and right-wing men gained power, liberals cheered the spectacle of prominent liberal men — mostly in media and cultural institutions — losing their jobs for sexual harassment. Land acknowledgments became prevalent in corporate and academic settings, even as the construction of pipelines on indigenous lands continued apace. In the wake of George Floyd’s murder by the police, many were disappointed by how little changed for poor and working-class black Americans: the most tangible outcome of the widespread street protests of 2020 was that corporate America put more black people on its boards.
This was neoliberal identity politics, an elite discourse that centered identities as a way of undermining a robust, effective class politics. Of course, race, gender, and sexuality matter and are salient political concepts in the fight for human freedom. But elites used neoliberal identity politics to undermine broad human solidarities, divide the Left, and advance policies that benefited only the 1 percent. Because bigotry is still a real problem, many good progressives would fall for it every time. — Liza Featherstone
Are there any bulwarks on the contemporary Left that are seeing through this? — unimportant
It's a good line. I hadn't heard it before. And it's good to set against the impression that anarchism is ... kinda boring. — Jamal
While an exciting idea, anarchism in practice is, well, boring. Far from what window-smashing insurrectionists are doing, it mostly takes the form of an extremely slow-moving and highly rule-bound process of collective deliberation. Anarchy, paradoxically, means more rules, not fewer, and more collective responsibility, not less. — David Flood
Hey, I don't know what's wrong with the rest of the world but reading old translations of 150 year old political theory is :fire: -- keeps me up all night.
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