Societal Structures: Injustice and Oppression

RadicalJoe

Status Signatus Cruce
Old Latin Translation ("The state of being marked with the cross")

Initial societal structures and economic practices (hierarchy, agriculture, and land ownership) carry a profound risk. When unjustified actions born of impunity, driven by generational wealth corrupted by taught dehumanization from generation to generation. These foundations often devolve into oppression and violence, manifesting as slavery, genocide, and oligarchy, and leaving an enduring legacy of injustice.

This pattern of unchecked power and resource control consistently leads to systemic oppression throughout history. Seemingly neutral or progressive developments (like agriculture, land ownership, and governance) become corrupted. This corruption rapidly dehumanizes entire groups of people (e.g., Native peoples branded as "savages," Africans as "subhuman"), directly fueling racism.

Crucially, history also shows powerful resistances in search of justice°

~ Haitian Revolution (1791-1804): Enslaved people overthrew French colonial rule, establishing an independent nation.

~ Land Back Movements: Indigenous peoples continue the vital reclamation of stolen territories (e.g., Māori in New Zealand).

~ Labor & Anti-Colonial Struggles: Unions, abolitionists, and revolutionaries disrupt oppressive systems.
~ Dakota Access Pipeline (2016-2017): Standing Rock protests against resource exploitation.

Can these injustices be remedied with greater compassion with humility in humanity? Are we going in the nonlinear reality where human singularity occurs or the default linear reality where history repeats itself? I’d love to hear your thoughts!

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AmadeusD

This pattern of unchecked power and resource control consistently leads to systemic oppression throughout history. — RadicalJoe

Usually, outside of the West. So, let's be clear: you're picking out the evils of Western history for a discussion. Not the concepts you're outlining. Nothing wrong with this; but its good to be clear.

That established, I can't quite tell what you're asking about. Are you wanting to ask about the breakdown of standard social structures? This seems too incoherent to give you a specific answer to the poll question. I'll make a comment I think matters though.

These foundations often devolve — RadicalJoe

Often - not always, and so we don't need to think about them collapsing, per se. Much, muhc better answers than turning over the apple cart, returning everyone to a state much worse for themselves and their community in hopes of a better restructure (with the exact same risks we've always had in hand).

RadicalJoe

↪AmadeusD

Sorry, I'm not feeling 100% today dealing with a cold that trigged a tension headache. It's not my intention to be ambiguous.

Yes, Definitely more outside of the west of course, exactly why we need to analyze these social structures and social constructs not to dismantle them or destroy them but to refine them. The discussion I don't believe in forcing or stating just honest feedback (Thank you, AmadeusD). Of course there's more then just one factor at play, e.g psychological warfare ect. Western culture wasn't my main attack yet the hand does fit the glove.

Shoot I love technology, logical reasoning and challenging the universe it's self. Western culture is a key factor for fueling these innovations, technological advancement. E.g Crusades has shaped the modern world as we know (Deus le volt).

My writing style is asynartisíes, compact and dense lacking flow. Any hoot thats exactly why I'm here to learn how to become a decent write, while learning about my favorite subjects like philosophy, psychology, technology and etymology.

Abstract : Decoherence from Social Norms
Making you choose a super position that creates nonlinear reality with oppression constraints.

Probably stems from oppression. Coming from one of the poorest reservations in American. Maybe I'll play a deaf mute, watch and learn. Before interacting in the playground ~My incoherent writings needs practice.~ -- my attempt at being humorous and concise..

AmadeusD

↪RadicalJoe

Nah mate, not all that. You're obviously here for hte right reasons - thats why I still tried to respond as best I could :)
I think you'll do well.

I more or less agree with your clarification entirely!

RadicalJoe

with the exact same risks... — &gt

One must always choose the lesser of two weevils. - movie reference - Master and Commander

Tom Storm

Can these injustices be remedied with greater compassion with humility in humanity? Are we going in the nonlinear reality where human singularity occurs or the default linear reality where history repeats itself? I’d love to hear your thoughts! — RadicalJoe

Milan Kundera said something like, 'You build a utopia and pretty soon you're going to need to build a small concentration camp.'

I'm not sure exactly what you are asking: can humans build a fair society? In practice, I don't think you can engineer anything along these lines as the process to get there will probably be one of warfare and come at extreme cost. Or to borrow another quote as Zizek often quips, 'The problem with the revolution is the morning after.'

Personally I focus less on big picture abstracts and more on what I do - Where does my money go? To what extent do I immerse myself in the untrammeled capitalism around me? That kind of thing.

RadicalJoe

↪Tom Storm

Looking for honest feedback, constructive criticism. Personally I enjoy reverse engineering even if it's abstract ideas to create stronger synapses.[/code]

unenlightened

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2025/jun/21/harvard-slavery-decendants-of-the-enslaved

Can these injustices be remedied with greater compassion with humility in humanity? — RadicalJoe

"We cannot afford it."

We are already morally bankrupt, and looking only for a token and image of justice; and a lot of us are resenting even that token. There is no way to make it right, no redemption or restitution. Total annihilation and extinction would not suffice.

But possibly, we might hope to show some love to our children and teach by example, to a new generation, a new way to deal with conflict.

AmadeusD

We are already morally bankrupt — unenlightened

I would recommend speaking for yourself :P

kazan

Condemnation of what was and what is, with a recommendation of a better what will has had little to commend it when viewed so far. Not that doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome is entirely illogical if, at least, some desired micro change (of outcome) occurs. But who has the patience to wait for their turn/desired micro change to occur?
Just a thought.
smile

unenlightened

I would recommend speaking for yourself — AmadeusD

OK, Jesus. :joke:

RadicalJoe

The very essence of a figmentented imagination of said token, can create the very spark to a wildfires of justice. Creative catalyst changing consciousness.

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