If you say so. Saying yes, however, does not make the claim true. — MoK

Do I even have to point out that saying no does not make the claim false? Your proclamations are as groundless as anyone's.

Well, I’ll go back to saying it’s an attempt to rescue materialism by attributing consciousness to matter.

That was you who defined consciousness as the property by which matter subjectively experiences! Now, you are saying this property, consciousness, has the ability to cause as well. You don't notice that a property cannot have ability.

↪Patterner Well, I’ll go back to saying it’s an attempt to rescue materialism by attributing consciousness to matter. — Wayfarer

I will continue to say the universe is not comprised only of physical.

That was you who defined consciousness as the property by which matter subjectively experiences! Now, you are saying this property, consciousness, has the ability to cause as well. You don't notice that a property cannot have ability. — MoK

Depends on your wording. Does mass have the ability to warp spacetime?

i think it's a theory rather than a definition. Most people who understand how to use the word 'consciousness' do not attribute it to matter in general.

You make a good point that theories or definitions might exclude consciousness from being casually efficacious. It needs some extra work to defend the causal efficacy of consciousness if all it is is the capacity to feel.

Depends on your wording. Does mass have the ability to warp spacetime? — Patterner

Mass does not warp spacetime; a substance that has mass warps spacetime.

I will continue to say the universe is not comprised only of physical. — Patterner

Out of blind faith.

i think it's a theory rather than a definition. Most people who understand how to use the word consciousness do not attribute it to matter in general. — bert1

Correct.

You make a good point that theories or definitions might exclude consciousness from being casually efficacious. It needs some extra work to defend the causal efficacy of consciousness if all it is is the capacity to feel. — bert1

What I am trying to say is that the consciousness/experience is a mental event. It cannot have a property since it is a property itself within the property dualism; therefore, the experience cannot affect the physical. It is not a matter of extra work. It is impossible.

Most people who understand how to use the word 'consciousness' do not attribute it to matter in general. — bert1

I do. I think consciousness is one of the properties of matter. I do not think physical properties are the only kind of properties of matter.

I don't know if this is the case with you, but a problem is often that people think I am saying consciousness is things like thinking, sentience, and awareness, and that particles think, are sentient, and aware. I am saying neither of those things.

It needs some extra work to defend the causal efficacy of consciousness if all it is is the capacity to feel. — bert1

When the nature of the thing being experienced is that of a particle, there is certainly no causal efficacy. There is no thinking, sentience, or awareness. No desire, no wanting something that does not exist. Nor is there any ability, any mechanism, to do anything.

When the nature of the thing being experienced is that of a human, brain activity of such nature is experienced as thought, sentience, awareness. There is desire, and wanting things that do not exist. There is also the ability, the mechanisms, to do things.