All your thoughts are your own responsibility, and thus due to you. — DifferentiatingEgg

Each person has a world beneath, so-called the subconscious mind. I would say that most of our emotions are rooted in the subconscious mind, since the conscious mind, although in charge of controlling things, is very simple.

To a large extent, living in the 'here and now' may be about dealing with the practical and pragmatic aspects of philosophical awareness. There is so much potential for getting caught up in theory or abstraction. That represents a challenge or distraction from dealing with life in the here and now. Being able to juggle theoretical thinking with the day to day aspects of life may be a fine art, or wisdom based philosophy.

Philosophy often looks at the problem of consciousness, but the idea of the subconscious may get overlooked. It involves layers of memories and conditioned programmes. The subconscious may manifest itself in so many ways, dreams or unexpected conscious experiences. The intricate relationship between subjective experiences, memory and time may be an essential aspect of juggling the here and now with wider, expansive understanding of life and how 'reality' becomes manifest in lived experiences.

One reliable trick I've found for "living in the here and now" is taking care for another.

Philosophy often looks at the problem of consciousness, but the idea of the subconscious may get overlooked. It involves layers of memories and conditioned programmes. The subconscious may manifest itself in so many ways, dreams or unexpected conscious experiences. The intricate relationship between subjective experiences, memory and time may be an essential aspect of juggling the here and now with wider, expansive understanding of life and how 'reality' becomes manifest in lived experiences. — Jack Cummins

Correct.

I do agree about the importance of taking care of another in the here and now. If anything, I see this being more problematic as people live in the virtual online simulated realities, cut off from the raw and ready experiences of others' suffering in the 'here and 'now' of face to face interaction.

The 'here and now' is majorly abstracted in my opinion. Billions of cars on the roads all rushing off. This itself is creating a flow we are to either follow or lose out. I am sincere in thinking that the 'here and now' deserves a bit more stillness, it's hard to see straight at reality for what it is purely; a man made system is overarching into the purity, abstracting the way it's experienced. Animal torture in factory farms or poor farming regimes is another problem, another abstraction. The system you're almost forced into, almost forces you into situations where you support animal suffering. There are plenty more reasons why the 'here and now' is not the place to be, but I put kindly to the purity of the statement.

Perhaps the state of civilization in the present era is not 'here' at all, and is completely oblivious to the 'now'. This is a question for a good judge. Is the state of civilization presently lost? It doesn't seem to be going anywhere apart from what is accepted as an unavoidable extinction, without, and this is the accepted cure, populating another planet.

Yes, live in the 'here and now', but that's a tough life if what I suggest is correct, and that the state of civilization currently is lost. You have a major abstraction and enmity that works against such a lifestyle. I don't agree civilization was meant to be this way. I don't believe we don't have a choice.

My moral argument is that the abstraction of 'here and now' is bad, and potentially evil. I am saying pack up the cars. I am saying stop the rushed farming practices. I am saying we need to fix the system if we are to at all live in the 'here and now.' This is not a question of what system, this is the matter for a good judge--- one who can judge whether humans are living goodly or badly, or evily, given the objective is to survive and to enjoy.

Living in the 'here and now' at present seems a lot like getting a job, working til your 70, buying food, drink and booze and going on holiday. It's not much of a life. The enjoyment of 'here and now' is surely much lesser than what it could be. As opposed to a pure 'here and now', which seems far more bright, where we build things to aid us in survival and enjoyment, far better than where those cars are going or where the job centers are taking us.

You may have a point of how the idea of the 'here and now' may be translated in.practical terms, such as 'get a job'. It can become a philosophy of supporting the status quo, and trying to fit into established repertoires of mundane routines.

I am certainly not trying to reinforce ideas of fitting into the established rebertoires. It may be, alternatively, that the 'here and now'involves aspects of rebellion.

The 'stillness' of the 'here and now' may be about pure reflective moments of consciousness. Going beyond that is another question and where the 'here and now' leads to on a moral basis, other than the ongoing conflicts of juggling differing agendas of importance in values.

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I don’t disagree with you to a certain point I suppose what you're getting at is that there are a large number of certain things determined about us that are out of our control. Though, dare I say that, simply on account of you being here, and engaging with philosophy, that there is some inclination born of strength, to ask forbidden questions, and to know yourself, to understand, and to overcome certain traits about yourself that you may not agree with outright, but that you could find a way to sublimate any of those "evils" you find within yourself into something less destructive, and into your own more creative drives that you do agree with? As a way of accepting all of who you are?

Being able to juggle theoretical thinking with the day to day aspects of life may be a fine art, or wisdom based philosophy

Yeah, both descriptors are reasonable. But regardless of which one we choose (or even a third one), basically you get out of life what you put in. Thus in my experience, it's totally worth the effort to maximize one's chance of thriving in the future, which after all is where we're all going to be for the rest of our lives.

psychologist Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi (trying to pronounce that name might produce a flow state.)) — Wayfarer

Verbal diarrhoea?

It has taken me several years to control the evils that I have encountered. My depression, which was unbearable for several years, is under control. Evil thoughts are less frequent and they are not as dense and persistent as past. I am doing well with my subconscious mind right now. As a result, I am more creative compared to the past. So, yes, we can manage the hard situation. I am, however, not sure how to divert evils to something useful for me and others. Do you know how to do that?