• Darkneos
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    https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-purpose-of-philosophy-3/answer/David-Moore-408

    Sorry to drag this up again but I just found the assessment by the guy to be either watered down or a misunderstanding of philosophy.

    I don't think everyone is a philosopher like he says, most people don't really seem to question the way things are in life and just go along with it with what they were taught. From my understanding our brains are sorta resistant to what philosophy requires of us.

    But also the summary of what the branches are and mean seems...watered down to the point that they sound off? Like ontology being about "what there is" which seems like a gross over simplification.

    So, we come full circle via a strange loop. Every experience of every entity including ourselves engenders expression which contributes to ongoing conceptual construction.

    That feedback is philosophy - the way whose truth is our life. It is inseparable from a human, being.

    I found this part odd because humans seemed to have survived a long time before philosophy so I wouldn't say it's truth is our life.

    Though I suppose I'm just giving him too much weight given he posts stuff like this: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-most-profound-thought-that-you-have-had/answer/David-Moore-408
  • Wayfarer
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    I thought it a good post - suitable for answering the question from a novice, 'what is philosophy all about?' Gave it an upvote.
  • Moliere
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    I don't think everyone is a philosopher like he says, most people don't really seem to question the way things are in life and just go along with it with what they were taught.Darkneos

    I'd put it that everyone has the potential to think philosophically.

    I don't agree that everyone is a philosopher, though. Everyone has the potential to think scientifically, artistically, and so forth -- insofar that a person connects to that group of thinkers then they can think like such and such.

    So it goes with philosophy.

    There is something to learn.

    Now, if I were leading a discussion with people face to face is right. "The Big Questions" or simply "wondering" are what philosophy is all about.

    In responding to a Quora post: Even there I'd say not everyone is a philosopher, though they could be: some people wonder about stuff and are willing to hear other perspectives, and some aren't.

    If you aren't willing to listen or wonder then even though you could think philosophically you are no philosopher.
  • Tom Storm
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    I don't think everyone is a philosopher like he says, most people don't really seem to question the way things are in life and just go along with it with what they were taught. From my understanding our brains are sorta resistant to what philosophy requires of us.Darkneos

    I agree with this below:

    I'd put it that everyone has the potential to think philosophically.

    I don't agree that everyone is a philosopher, though. Everyone has the potential to think scientifically, artistically, and so forth -- insofar that a person connects to that group of thinkers then they can think like such and such.

    So it goes with philosophy.
    Moliere

    I can think scientifically but I am not a scientist. Ditto many subjects, including philsophy. Expertise and having done some required reading, ought to be factored into this for my money.

    I wonder what the minimum standard would be for someone to be called a philosopher?
  • Moliere
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    I wonder what the minimum standard would be for someone to be called a philosopher?Tom Storm

    Minimum standard, by my lights in the world we live in, is being paid to do it.

    But surely you see how inadequate that standard is. It's just the minimum standard in the world we happen to live in (and it's likely the person paid to do it has expertise, especially given how competitive those roles are)
  • Tom Storm
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    Minimum standard, by my lights in the world we live in, is being paid to do it.Moliere

    Well there's probably an intersubjective component to any disciple setting standards for credentialling. Some, of these are more reasonable than others.

    I'm not sure getting paid is enough. Not everyone accepts such a neoliberal frame even within our ethically bereft capitalist cultures. But I see what you are getting at.

    Some might argue that the production of original philsophy of a sufficiently high standard might be a hallmark. Hard thing to establish. Soem level of competence or expertise seems to be needed. But ultimately I suspect it has to be based upon some intersubjective definitional criteria. What do you think, setting aside capitalism...
  • Moliere
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    What do you think, setting aside capitalism...Tom Storm

    That's me jumping into the ether of wonder. I too frequently occupy my thoughts with meta-philosophy and its possible purposes.

    If I had to draw one example: Socrates is philosophy. Plato is commentary. The Gadfly is doing philosophy not at the "bare minimum" but at the point where it's unquestionably philosophy.

    "The Health of the City" -- though I'd expand that to the globe at large in thinking about philosophy proper regarding The Gadfly.
  • Tom Storm
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    interesting. Seems reasonable. If we say someone is an engineer or doctor or lawyer, sociologist or stamp collector it seems fairly easy to define. Is philosophy different?
  • Joshs
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    I wonder what the minimum standard would be for someone to be called a philosopher?
    — Tom Storm

    Minimum standard, by my lights in the world we live in, is being paid to do it.

    But surely you see how inadequate that standard is. It's just the minimum standard in the world we happen to live in (and it's likely the person paid to do it has expertise, especially given how competitive those roles are)
    Moliere

    And it shows how the world we live in has changed. Up until recently, most notable philosophers wrote outside of academic environments and lived off of other jobs or inheritances. These include
    Maimonides
    Machiavelli
    Montaigne
    Descartes
    Spinoza
    Locke
    Leibniz
    Rousseau
    Hume
    Schopenhauer
    Kierkegaard
    Peirce
    Nietzsche
  • Darkneos
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    And it shows how the world we live in has changed. Up until recently, most notable philosophers wrote outside of academic environments and lived off of other jobs or inheritances. These includeJoshs

    Right but the point in the link was that everyone is one which is what I disagree with. Most people I argue don't really think much about why things are the way they are.

    Some philosophies argue such questions don't matter, which is ironic.
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