Yes, these are the philosophical underpinnings of the tension between libertarianism and paternalism. Though often (perhaps most of the time) liberty and well-being align, there are many cases where they diverge, as you point out. I like the idea of letting people do whatever they want, unless there is good reason to do otherwise. But this raises the question: when is it a good reason to do otherwise? Generally speaking, if using one's liberty harms others, that's probably a good reason to restrict that freedom. If the only harm is to oneself, then it doesn't seem like a good idea to punish them; there is probably an underlying issue such that punishing people who do things that harm themselves will likely accomplish nothing, at best.This paper examines the philosophical underpinnings of this tension, highlights the inherent subjectivity of moral and ethical categories, and invites scholarly discourse on reconciling liberty with well-being. — Copernicus
I don't really see an argument here for "the inherent subjectivity of moral and ethical categories". I also don't think it really makes that much of a difference in this particular case — 83nt0n
Care to elaborate? — Copernicus
Like the parents of a newborn baby individually taking their lives and living the baby to starve to death. — Copernicus
Like the parents of a newborn baby individually taking their lives and living the baby to starve to death.
— Copernicus
Yes, this would be a case where someone's liberty comes at the cost of another's well-being. I think this should be prevented. I don't know what the best way to do this would be. — 83nt0n
You could try feeding and looking after the baby - that might work. — unenlightened
You could try feeding and looking after the baby - that might work. — unenlightened
we would probably want a safety net that feeds and looks after the baby in the absence of parents. — 83nt0n
I believe that morality is objective. — 83nt0n
We seem to basically agree on the legal issues of freedom and well-being — 83nt0n
This paper examines — Copernicus
Are you going to post the paper? — I like sushi
Negative liberty trumps Positive liberty when a consensus when a course of action does not have majority agreement. — I like sushi
Human societies face a persistent tension between individual liberty and paternalistic protection. Libertarianism celebrates personal autonomy, yet freedom without constraint can lead to self-destruction. Conversely, laws intended to protect may infringe on dignity and agency.
I. Introduction
The philosophical question at the core of modern political thought is deceptively simple yet infinitely complex: Where should we draw the line between “what I want” and “what is good for me?” — Copernicus
Invitation to scholars: How can societies dynamically balance personal liberty with paternalistic protection in light of subjective morality? Can adaptive frameworks reflect the fluidity of ethical categories while preserving dignity and agency? — Copernicus
I don't see how those are relevant here. I asked how I draw the line between my ambitions and my well-being? — Copernicus
How can societies dynamically balance personal liberty with paternalistic protection in light of subjective morality? Can adaptive frameworks reflect the fluidity of ethical categories while preserving dignity and agency? — Copernicus
What about suicide? What if you're a single parent with a 3-month-old son and you decide to take your life, leaving him by himself? — Copernicus
And if you say it falls beyond your personal freedom because it "affects" others, then according to the butterfly effect, no action is private. — Copernicus
How do you set boundaries? Speech also affects others but we allow it. But not smoking. Who decides what's private and what's public? — Copernicus
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