Let us assume, for the sake of argument, a form of epiphenomenalist dualism, in which there are two distinct kinds of things: physical processes occurring in the brain and an associated array of conscious experiences — tom111
Consciousness is a passive byproduct, a kind of “ride-along” to the real causal story that takes place in the material world.
Once we grant this setup, we immediately encounter the problem of psychophysical harmony. Why is it that our conscious experiences are so perfectly aligned with our physical and behavioral states? Why does seeing a red apple correspond to the experience of redness rather than the feeling of pain or a random hallucination? Within epiphenomenalism, there is no causal reason for this mapping to be so orderly. The physical world could just as easily have produced any pattern of conscious experiences, or none at all. The fact that our inner experiences match the external world so precisely seems like an extraordinary coincidence if consciousness has no causal role. — tom111
…consciousness is an enriched state of mind. The enrichment consists in inserting additional elements of mind within the ongoing mind process. These additional mind elements are largely cut from the same cloth as the rest of the mind—they are imagetic—but thanks to their contents they announce firmly that all the mental contents to which I currently have access belong to me, are my thing, are actually unfolding within my organism. The addition is revelatory. Revealing mental ownership is first and foremost accomplished by feeling. When I experience the mental event we call pain, I can actually localize it to some part of my body. In reality, the feeling occurs in both my mind and my body, and for a good reason. I own both, they are located within the same physiological space, and they can interact with each other. The manifest ownership of mental contents by the integrated organism where they arise is the distinctive trait of a conscious mind.
Perhaps, to rescue dualism, we might turn to interactionist dualism, the idea that mind and matter do interact. Yet this immediately raises another problem: how could such an interaction occur without violating the laws of physics as we understand them? The brain appears to be a closed physical system governed by conservation laws. To allow non-physical causes to influence it would require new physics or a revision of our current understanding of causation, and we have no evidence for either. — tom111
The brain appears to be a closed physical system governed by conservation laws. — tom111
There is no such thing as a closed physical system, so we can dismiss this as a non-issue. — Metaphysician Undercover
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