Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. — Hebrews 11:1
In other words, faith is to believe, something without proof. — TheMadFool
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. — Hebrews 11:1
Is it limited to "religion"? — WISDOMfromPO-MO
My point is that the role of faith in religion is at the same level as in other human knowledge e.g. science. — TheMadFool
However, my point is that religion is based on evidence and the role of faith doesn't exceed that in other spheres of human knowledge. — TheMadFool
What is your reaction to the statement "There is no evidence for the existence of God"? — WISDOMfromPO-MO
If religion is all about faith then why did so-called prophets perform miracles? — TheMadFool
I agree the rigor of rationality was of poor quality in the past and don't meet modern standards. However, the point is, evidence was provided and the concept of faith collapses. It doesn't make sense to provide evidence and then appeal to faith. — TheMadFool
Why did the people believe Jesus was the son of God? This is a valid question and the answer is the miracles he performed. — TheMadFool
I'll grant you there is evidence. I have no objection to people taking the NT as evidence. What I object to is the rejection of faith as the critical step.
Is there a religion that relies on evidence to attract, keep, and nourish believers? — Bitter Crank
To believe the evidence needs faith but the belief in Jesus is grounded in reason. Can you see the difference? — TheMadFool
To believe the evidence needs faith but the belief in Jesus is grounded in reason. Can you see the difference? — TheMadFool
You don't want to try to interpret things as stupidly as possible — Wosret
Actually, I'll concede the issue. — Bitter Crank
Well, the contradiction (above) is real. What do you think of it? Am I being stupid or have I made a clever observation? — TheMadFool
The gist of what I want to say is the obvious contradiction in religion - that it appeals to our faith and at the same time offers miracles as evidence. Or is it that we can compartmentalize parts of religion that requires faith and parts which are evidence-based? — TheMadFool
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