People disown members of their families for lots of petty reasons. Sometimes for no reason at all, and don't give it much of a second thought, because you're attention demanding, and they're too self-centered for that. People that get hit hard by that suggestion annoy me. They must have come from some tv family. — Wosret
Well her testimony is correct, Christ must come before husband/wife or children. The reason for this is that without Christ as a foundation, husband/wife, children, etc. are all without value and will be lost anyway. If you read Kierkegaard's Works of Love for example, you'll see why God must be the foundation of the love between two people for example, or otherwise that love will not last. Namely two lovers cannot swear their love by themselves - for they are changing and finite - they must swear by the eternal God who alone is unchanging and infinite and can guarantee eternity to their love (and what love doesn't thirst for eternity, isn't love). Thus they swear by duty, not by themselves.Her testimony convicts her and her church's teachers. — Bitter Crank
I haven't read the post super carefully, but I'm not sure what exactly she did or didn't do to her son when she found out that he is gay, so it's a bit difficult to comment. I get the sense that she reduced communication with him, but I also get the sense that the son has also been very aggressive towards her. So I'm not sure what to say.They are certainly "sharp, shocking, and grim". — Bitter Crank
I don't think they proposed killing their son for being gay, castrating him, or the like :s so I'm not sure what you're talking about.Their thinking is no different than the kind of savage theology practiced by Muslim fundamentalists -- cutting off the hands of thieves, killing women for shaming the family, or throwing homosexuals off the roofs of buildings. — Bitter Crank
I would call her someone who thinks homosexual sex is immoral (maybe she also thinks homosexuality itself is immoral, I don't know that).Well, what would you call her? A "not-enthusiastic about homos"? A "hetero-preferer"? "Homo annoyed"? — Bitter Crank
That depends. What if, for example, the gay son hates her for not approving of his actions and is deliberately being hateful towards her? That also escalates conflict, you know. The situation isn't as simple as you make it out to be.Look, if you are willing to slam the door on your own gay son, you probably are going to feel something similarly hateful when you see two guys kissing. — Bitter Crank
Their thinking is no different than the kind of savage theology practiced by Muslim fundamentalists -- cutting off the hands of thieves, killing women for shaming the family, or throwing homosexuals off the roofs of buildings. — BitterCrank
"What constitutes an honor killing? Someone does something considered to tarnish the reputation of the family. A family member then kills the despoiler, often publicly, thereby regaining face."
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In the rare instances of men being subject to honor killings, the typical cause is homosexuality. "
— Robert Sapolsky, Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst
Worldwide, monotheism is relatively rare; to the extent that it does occur, it is disproportionately likely among desert pastoralists (while rain forest dwellers are atypically likely to be polytheistic). This makes sense. Deserts teach tough, singular things, a world reduced to simple, desiccated furnace-blasted basics that are approached with deep fatalism. " Iam the Lord your God" and "there is but one god and his name is Allah" and "there will be no gods before me" -- dictates like these proliferate... — R. Sapolsky, Behave
Does it contain a thick, robust streak of sociopathy? Probably. Why? Because ideas shape the way we view the world and respond to problems. What do you think are the elements of evangelical (that 'old time') religion that direct believers into sociopathic patterns?
I'm including fundamentalism as part of evangelical religion. It isn't just Christianity, of course. — Bitter Crank
The 'tilt' can be exaggerated by skillful (and perhaps quite sociopathic) teachers and leaders. It isn't unique to evangelical Christians, of course. Roman Catholics have their own variety of severe, unbending beliefs. — Bitter Crank
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