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What does matter is that the so-called right to own a gun comes with qualifications. — tim wood

Your post is all over the place, but if this is your beef, then I've never denied that certain restrictions on gun ownership are prudent, lawful, and necessary.

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Part of the problem is that the extreme positions of the NRA have driven liberals to take 180º opposite positions--perhaps in contradiction to what they would otherwise hold.

For instance, I don't have any objection to people owning guns for sport -- hunting, shooting a clay disks... that sort of thing. I don't have any objection to individuals owning guns to protect their home. A hunting gun or a pistol is more than adequate for that purpose.

I am not in favor of open carry or concealed carrying. I am not in favor of people being allowed to buy, sell, trade, or possess guns not suitable for sport or hunting (like the animals one can legally hunt in North America). No assault rifles, no sawed off shotguns, no bump stocks, no automatic (and very limited semi-automatic) guns.

Some liberals are prone to over-react and desire to eliminate all guns altogether, for any purpose. That's too extreme. There are too many of what I would call appropriate guns and gun owners to ban them. 100 million? 150 million? Way too many to collect.

We have laws which up the gravity of property crimes committed with guns. There are laws which clearly label murder as illegal. Criminals ignore laws such as these. So, the police need to do a better job of catching criminals.

So, the police need to do a better job of catching criminals. — Bitter Crank

Say rather, they need to do a better job of catching dangerous criminals. Since the US has the highest proportion of its population in jail, it's almost a tautology that its police are the world's best at catching criminals. It's just that most of them are no danger to anybody's body or property, because all they did was take or own some drugs.

Perhaps if the US police spent less time arresting weed smokers and throwing them in jail they'd get better at catching dangerous criminals.

Where good detective and police work are most needed is in the violent slums, where detectives and police don't like working very much. It is unacceptable for multiple killers to not be tracked down and arrested. Yes, it's difficult in the ghetto to do that, but it can be done.