Perhaps, the main reason is that to apply the golden rule, the person has to be already in some sense 'enlightened' or capable of self-love. After all, self-love is prior to treating another with kindness and empathy. Without self-love, then practicing good behavior or right conduct according to the golden rule is much harder to do. One is left with emulating the golden rule without self-love, a harder task to do in my mind. — Posty McPostface
Isn't this a bit like your last thread? — Noble Dust
I might endeavor to treat my neighbor as myself, but when he kills another neighbor, I want justice to be served. — Marchesk
So meaning that if you committed murder, you would want justice served to yourself, right? — Noble Dust
eye for an eye — Posty McPostface
The Golden Rule begin with the self because we can only know what guilt and punishment feel like for ourselves. — Bitter Crank
Another way to frame your Golden Rule question is to ask what would you want to happen if you're the victim? Or what would you want to happen to your neighbor who was victimized? — Marchesk
Jesus never went into detail about how the Golden Rule should or should not be applied in every situation. — Marchesk
What if everyone let the dead bury themselves? — Marchesk
You mean the walking dead, or what? — Noble Dust
What's the superior alternative? — Marchesk
Luke 9:59-60: He said to another man, "Follow me." But he replied, "Lord, first let me go and bury my father."
Jesus said to him, "Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God." — Marchesk
Restorative justice could be applied to older offenders and more serious crimes, too, but with more state involvement and likely still involve jail and/or a fine. — Bitter Crank
Said in the same vain as what Jesus said to the rich young man who wanted to follow Him: "First, go and sell all you have." The young man went away sadly [because he couldn't give up his wealth].
"Your family business comes second to the Kingdom of God." or worse than second. It's a tough demand. — Bitter Crank
It's interesting to note how some tribes or primitive societies go about the whole ordeal. I'm on my cell and don't have the papers but it would seem that people in said primitive societies feel a much greater sense of.bond with their fellow kindsmen. I assume that would be another prerequisite for the golden rule to be maintained in practice. — Posty McPostface
Or cut off your hand if it causes you to sin. Of course all of that can be interpreted in a non-literal sense, but it seems to be saying everything else is secondary to your calling. — Marchesk
What is "calling"? — Noble Dust
suppose Jesus always knew best, but one has to wonder whether Lazarus, who was already starting to stink pretty badly, really wanted to come back to life. — Bitter Crank
It's troubling when there's nobody around to enforce the rules of good conduct. However, I expect banishment from the society to be in general the most severe form of punishment in said primitive or such societies. — Posty McPostface
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