My conspiracy theory is that it's all part of Steve Bannon's plan to destroy the institutions of the American political system in order to replace it with a right-wing populist regime. — Echarmion
I infer the presence of corporate strength and pressure that I doubt Bannon can muster. The Chinese have that strength, but working with Trump as a tool doesn't seem their style. But it fits with Russian ideas of long-term subversion. — tim wood
See article The Lead Federal Agency Responding to Protesters in Portland Employs Thousands of Private ContractorsWhat has not been reported widely in the media, however, is the fact that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) unit that is coordinating the “crowd control” effort — an agency called the Federal Protective Service (FPS) — is composed largely of contract security personnel. Those contractors are being furnished to FPS by major private-sector security companies like Blackwater corporate descendant Triple Canopy as well as dozens of other private security firms.
In fact, FPS spends more than $1 billion a year on these contract security guards who are authorized to conduct crowd control at federal properties, such as those in Portland. And, based on available photographic and document evidence, it appears those private contractors are now part of the federal force arrayed in Portland and are likely to be part of the federal response President Trump has promised to stand up in multiple other cities, including Chicago, Detroit, New York, Philadelphia and other urban centers led by Democratic mayors across the country.
And the list goes on...Triple Canopy and Constellis' Top Secret Protective Security Officers provide general armed security for building patrons and the general public at federal buildings requiring a Top Secret Clearance throughout California.
RESPONSIBILITIES:
Provide security for various federal buildings within the contract limits by conducting perimeter security, internal security, monitoring screens, etc.
Protect personnel and property in a professional manner
Meet and deal tactfully and politely with general public and visitors
Effectively and efficiently screen and process visitors
Identify, report, delay or detain persons who violate rules and regulations
Conduct internal and external roving foot patrols
That's the image the election campaign of Trump wants to show for his devoted followers like you, NOS. Of course those that are actually US Citizens, it should be added. And who cares if the "feds" are just private contractors, right?And I have to say it’s satisfying watching the feds kick around these privileged twerps. — NOS4A2
And who cares if the "feds" are just private contractors, right? — ssu
may designate employees... fficers and agents for duty in connection with the protection of property owned or occupied by the Federal Government and persons on the property, including duty in areas outside the property to the extent necessary to protect the property and persons on the property
Deploying federal agents and detaining rioters, looters and terrorists in Portland is perfectly legal.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/40/1315 — NOS4A2
ORS 133.245
Arrest by federal officer
(2) The federal officer shall inform the person to be arrested of the federal officer’s authority and reason for the arrest.
“Arrest” means to place a person under actual or constructive restraint or to take a person into custody for the purpose of charging that person with an offense. A “stop” as authorized under ORS 131.605 (Definitions for ORS 131.605 to 131.625) to 131.625 (Frisk of stopped persons) is not an arrest.
A “stop” is a temporary restraint of a person’s liberty by a peace officer lawfully present in any place. [1973 c.836 §30; 1997 c.866 §2; 2011 c.506 §6; 2011 c.644 §12
The detention and inquiry shall be conducted in the vicinity of the stop and for no longer than a reasonable time.
Trump is a simple mind to understand. — ssu
I really disagree.He's actually very hard to understand. — Michael
:grin:It can't be that he's being deceitful and is just concerned that he'll lose the election if every voter uses them but wants his supporters to use them because some of them might not be able to or want to vote in person, right? That would be very dishonest, and we all know the President wouldn't lie about something as important as the foundation of democracy? — Michael
I'm not sure what the national law is, if there is one. But here in Arizona Michael law enforcement has 20 minutes in detaining you before they have to charge you with a crime or they have to let you go.
I'm not sure what the harm is in detaining a person of interest for the legal amount of time. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
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