According to the filing, around the same time the employee sent those messages, “an election official at the TCF Center observed that as Biden began to take the lead, a large number of untrained individuals flooded the TCF Center and began making illegitimate and aggressive challenges to the vote count.” Meanwhile, Trump himself began pushing false claims about the TCF Center.
Words don't have the power you pretend they do. — NOS4A2
If they do act it is because they perceive an injustice, not words. — NOS4A2
In the end, they're not coming after me. They're coming after you — and I'm just standing in their way.
The ridiculous and baseless indictment of me by the Biden administration’s weaponized Department of Injustice will go down as among the most horrific abuses of power in the history of our country ... Many people have said that; Democrats have even said it. This vicious persecution is a travesty of justice.
Is there a danger of Trump pulling something like that in the future (as President)?
No! — ssu
Never underestimate the lack of leadership qualities that Trump has. Remember: this man is simply not fit to be a President. We've already seen this, it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. He want's to be a dictator, yet he lacks a lot what is needed to be one. Also Trump is uncontrollable, hence nobody can control him. Yes, it's chaotic, but that simply makes the Presidency ineffective. That's the end result: more Trumpian chaos, more political polarization.Trump is the wrecking ball. By delegitimising democratic institutions, causing chaos and shifting what is acceptable he's paving the way for an actual dictator.
He does play with the idea. Apparently he just recently clarified that he wouldn't be a dictator - well maybe for the first day. This is just Trump being Trump, but it's also a normalisation. He won't be called out on it by his base, and that means the next time someone says this, it'll be a little less outrageous.
While I do not think Trump was planned, I do think there are forces, which we might call disaster capitalists, which seek to exploit him, perhaps to the point of an actual "managed democracy" which would perpetuate laissez-faire policies while redirecting popular anger to outsiders. — Echarmion
Words don't have the power you pretend they do.
— NOS4A2
Of course they do, and you know it. Why do you continue defending Trump if words do not have power? — Fooloso4
The self-coup would have been likely bloodless. — ssu
Of course they do, and you know it. Why do you continue defending Trump if words do not have power? Why do you object to the gag order if words do not have power? Why insist on his right to say whatever he wants if his words do not have power?
The fact of the matter is that you use words as a rhetorical devise in an attempt to destroy the power and meaning of words, accusing those who oppose him of whatever it is he is accused of.
I suppose that reveals more about you — NOS4A2
Words have power because I like defending Trump. — NOS4A2
I don’t believe I’m changing the world with my words. — NOS4A2
I speak and write in words. — NOS4A2
Yes conmen believe in the power of words. Are you a conman, or so easily conned, that you’ll believe the same? — NOS4A2
If others are forced to move at the sight and sound of words, what’s your excuse? — NOS4A2
Their gag order is censorship. — NOS4A2
Trump sort of made a tenuous attempt at a self-coup. He pushed Pence to do something illegal, and he wanted to appoint Jeffrey Clark as AG - because Clark was committed to lying about the election in order to get State Legislatures to illegally overturn the election. Pence didn't play along, and he backed down on Clark.Did Trump attemp an self-coup?
No.
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Would there have been a possibility for a successful self-coup?
Absolutely! But then Trump would had to have the balls to go through with it. He would have needed guys like general Michael Flynn, who would have had the ability (thanks to his background in special forces and being the director of the DIA) to pull it off. — ssu
But there are people willing to act on all of the above, to abide by someone else’s dictates, up until and including throwing someone in jail because he made certain sounds with his mouth. — NOS4A2
Fee speech is a virtuous policy and censorship is a vice. But irresponsible, hateful speech that predictably leads to threats of violence is a vice, even if it is Constitutionally protected. You've ignored this. Either call Trump out for this irresponsible behavior, or defend it.
I asked you to specifically discuss the morality Trump's attacks. The mere fact that free speech is a generally good thing doesn't imply all speech is morally acceptable.It usually leads to threats against the speaker. — NOS4A2
These later decisions have fashioned the principle that the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.
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