I can only hope that Trumps presidency will be merely a series of bad economic decisions for the country putting it further in debt but leaves us far from other on the boots conflicts or a country wide oppression of those who do not fall into his base.

A person close to me just brought up how they fear for themselves, being trans, as they questioned how hospitable the country will now be towards them given the rhetoric Trump spouts.

A person close to me just brought up how they fear for themselves, being trans, as they questioned how hospitable the country will now be towards them given the rhetoric Trump spouts. — substantivalism

Probably not very. It is cited as a factor in the following detailed analysis from the New York Times (gift link).

Let’s Not Lose Sight of Who Trump Is

I really think that the importance of the transgender issue was underappreciated by the Democrats. They simply thought it was the latest civil rights issue when the actual policy was really crazy and offensive to working class voters. — Frances Fukayama

As I said:

politicians and demagogues are only as powerful as the people let them. — Christoffer

If the people succumbs to such terrors and suffering that things are on the brink of collapse... then collapse, and overthrow the government. My point is that there's a limit as to how much a government can wield its power against the people, at some point, the people fights back. Either it starts earlier, demonstrations and movements that put pressure on the government. I mean there's MILLIONS of people who could march on the streets. With enough bad stuff happening, what's the loss?
Yeah, the loss could be state violence, but that would only lead to a pushback with other means.

Must I remind that this happens in many regions and times in history? The apathetic and lazy will only be so as long as the status quo doesn't change. If the situation change so much it removes the security and wellbeing of the people, then what's the government gonna do against millions of citizens taking action against such policy?

And since the actual majority who voted on Trump seems to do it without buying into his fascist tendencies, they too will not accept what he does. When looking at it from this perspective, only the christo-fascists and christian fundamentalists are loyal to him. And they are a minority.

Crazy story and turns out to be true according to FEMA. The hatred and evil runs deep. The worms have travelled deep into the anti-Trump brain.

Trump allies push to punish Jack Smith in first test of retribution vow
Even as Jack Smith took steps to wind down his Jan. 6 election interference case against Trump, Elon Musk said the special counsel “cannot go unpunished.” ...

...A Trump adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to detail the thinking of the president-elect and his team, said Trump and his team would react extremely poorly if Smith tries to do anything else publicly. The next Justice Department will look “critically” at what Smith’s team did over the past couple of years to “make sure nothing like this ever happens again,” the person said. — Washington Post

The Retribution of the Regime begins. I wonder where they will locate their Gulag Archipalago? Although I suppose when they give amnesty to all the January 6th rioters it will free up some jail space.

And note who is quoted. I wonder if Musk will be DJT's Beria.

I wonder where they will locate their Gulag Archipalago? — Wayfarer

Didn't they already have their own gulag since 2002?

Didn't they already have their own gulag since 2002? — javi2541997

Oh yeah, now you mention it...maybe he'll want to send Jack Smith there. But first, he'll have to work out what to charge him with. Telling the truth might be it. Nobody can do that, especially if it contradicts or risks embarrasing Dear Leader.

As I said:
politicians and demagogues are only as powerful as the people let them.
— Christoffer — Christoffer

That is true, but are you suggesting that history teaches that tyrants kings emperors dictators and oppressive regimes in general never prevail for a long time? That is obviously not the case; rather the contrary, such regimes predominate in human history, and justice, democracy, and freedom are rare and fragile.

But what i am pointing out is that the Democrat narrative is if anything more mendacious than the Trump narrative. There is a real crisis: democrats are simply denying it completely, while Trump acknowledges it, identifies a false cause and cure, and proposes to go back to the good old days.

What history teaches is that when prosperity is in decline, "the people" will support someone who identifies the problem and provides an easy answer - and especially if the problem is identified as a group of people who can be gotten rid of -immigrants, foreigners, Jews, Arabs, Muslims, barbarians, communists etc etc.

The problem for "the people" is that there are so many people that are not "the people" but "the others". And whether "the others" are the SS or the Jews is a matter of perspective. The rule is that 'we' are always the good guys, and 'they' are the problem.

There is a real crisis: democrats are simply denying it completely, while Trump acknowledges it, identifies a false cause and cure, and proposes to go back to the good old days. — unenlightened

But you can bet whatever crises there are, are only going to get worse under The Regime.

Under either regime.

Because neither are honest. But the forces of nature require depopulation and the tightening of belts around stomachs and necks. That will happen under any regime, and most of all under a 'do nothing' regime.

Yes to both questions. The GOP of Bush and the neoconservatives is largely over, with many of them now voting Democrat. I hope the Democrats can have the same evolution but voters can’t even have the same candidate everyone voted for in the primary. — NOS4A2

Thanks, that's interesting. I'm interested in your perception of Bernie Sanders. He comes across as strongly anti-establishment to me. Is that your perception?

There's a joke in there about wanting minimal government.

Very good article with a range of views on where we are and where we might be going.

My point is that there's a limit as to how much a government can wield its power against the people, at some point, the people fights back. — Christoffer

Based on the results of the election, the people support the incoming MAGA government. If and when they become dissatisfied and want a change things will be very different. One key to understanding Trump is that he projects his intentions on the opposition. Next time around free and fare elections will be something he will attempt to prevent from happening if the people turn against him. He will have moved to do what other autocrats have done and silence information and political opinion sources that do not support him. His control of the courts will be stronger. Congress will not act as a counterweight. Government agencies will have been purged of civil servants who do not show sufficient loyalty to him. Corporations and the mega-wealthy will do his bidding as long as it increases their wealth.

In short, autocrats do whatever they can to assure that the people remain powerless. No situation is permanent, but by the time the Trump regime is overthrown things may have become very dire.

Thanks, that's interesting. I'm interested in your perception of Bernie Sanders. He comes across as strongly anti-establishment to me. Is that your perception?

He seems to be a job-holder, to me, someone who does politics for the salary.

There is joke in there about big government.

Crazy story and turns out to be true according to FEMA. The hatred and evil runs deep. The worms have travelled deep into the anti-Trump brain. — NOS4A2

The hatred and fear of FEMA runs deep in the mind of the conspiracy theorist.

I assume these were orders after a hurricane evacuation had been given and people had been told to evacuate.

Remember that for the Trumpist the worst enemy is the US government. So someone coming from the government, especially from the despised FEMA that has in plans "concentration camps" for the conservative Americans, yeah, that sounds like quite logical advice for FEMA personnel.

Next time around free and fare elections will be something he will attempt to prevent from happening if the people turn against him. He will have moved to do what other autocrats have done and silence information and political opinion sources that do not support him. His control of the courts will be stronger. Congress will not act as a counterweight. Government agencies will have been purged of civil servants who do not show sufficient loyalty to him. Corporations and the mega-wealthy will do his bidding as long as it increases their wealth.

In short, autocrats do whatever they can to assure that the people remain powerless. No situation is permanent, but by the time the Trump regime is overthrown things may have become very dire. — Fooloso4

:100: And let's not forget that Trump has been completely transparent about it all along.

Crazy story and turns out to be true according to FEMA. — NOS4A2

The Federal Emergency Management Agency terminated an employee who the agency said told her survivor assistance team to avoid homes with yard signs supporting President-elect Donald Trump’s campaign.

FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell said Saturday the employee’s conduct was reprehensible.

“This is a clear violation of FEMA’s core values and principles to help people regardless of their political affiliation,” Criswell said. “This type of behavior and action will not be tolerated at FEMA and we will hold people accountable if they violate these standards of conduct. — Wall Street Journal

If government personnel are discriminating against you because of something it shouldn’t discriminate against, then yes, the government is the enemy. It’s oppression. You’ll find that generally speaking the government is a common enemy of oppressed people, no conspiracy theory required.

I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED. — President-elect Trump, 6Nov24

No doubt he does because the majority of "poorly educated" (+ reality tv, WWE & social media-brain addled) US voters love "Trump". :eyes: :mask:

Trump appears to have better advisors this time.

If government personnel are discriminating against you because of something it shouldn’t discriminate against, then yes, the government is the enemy. It’s oppression. You’ll find that generally speaking the government is a common enemy of oppressed people, no conspiracy theory required. — NOS4A2

And the fact that you use the word "enemy" and oppression makes it totally clear that some government officials can be careful when having to approach you. If I get bad/improper service from government officials I'll complain through the effective channels, but not declare them an enemy. Enemy is a definition for war and too easily used by Americans describing their fellow people.

Oh I forgot, you live in Canada.

Yeah but you have Stockholm syndrome. You like being stolen from and told what to do by a bunch of pencil-necks, the younger the better.

The EU already capitulating, and Trump isn’t even in office yet.

EU may consider replacing Russian LNG imports with those from US, von der Leyen says

BUDAPEST, Nov 8 (Reuters) - The European Union could consider replacing Russian liquefied natural gas (LNG) imports with those from the United States, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen told reporters on Friday.

"We still get a lot of LNG from Russia and why not replace it by American LNG, which is cheaper for us and brings down our energy prices," said von der Leyen.

She said the EU approach to trade policies implemented when Donald Trump takes power again as U.S. president in January will be to engage, look at common interests and negotiate.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/eu-may-consider-replacing-russian-lng-imports-with-those-us-von-der-leyen-says-2024-11-08/

I don’t think Trump will make it to his term with broken people like this running around.

Yeah but you have Stockholm syndrome. You like being stolen from and told what to do by a bunch of pencil-necks, the younger the better. — NOS4A2

You think so?

What can I say. Being happy that my taxes have substantially gotten lower from earlier times. As a young student I remember being taxed 72,5% and even the tax official didn't understand why it was so high (the max at that time). Luckily I was still living with my parents at that time. Now it's gone down, well below 50%. And then I got a free education to an university degree and don't have to pay for my children's education. My health care costs are low, even if I have had health problems on the way. The fact is that when people really get services for their taxes that they otherwise would have to pay, they are OK with it. Even the Republicans have pushed improvements to Medicare and such stuff and the majority of Republicans favour such entitlement programs as social security and Medicare, so don't get your ideological views to forget reality.

And they say I'm living in the happiest country in the World. Guess that makes everyone else's country suck for them a lot more.

I hope this happens, big league.

Now it's the democrats turn to contest the election?



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