Not necessarily.If "I agree that there is a cup" and "there is a cup" mean different things (which they do under some metaphysical systems) then it does (and so could be true) — Michael
Read my correction. "I agree that there is a cup" means what "there is a cup" means. It also means something more than just that. Do you not understand this?I'm really not sure how to understand that. If "I agree that there is a cup" and "there is a cup" mean different things then the negation of the latter ("there isn't a cup") doesn't contradict the former. — Michael
Read my correction. "I agree that there is a cup" means what "there is a cup" means. — Agustino
It also means something more than just that. Do you not understand this?
"There is a cup" = Meaning 1
Meaning 1: I think there is a cup.
When you make that statement "there is a cup" it means "I think there is a cup". The statement "there is a cup" itself is purely factual and independent of what you think, but obviously that isn't the case when you make it - it doesn't have that meaning. I mean there are difficulties because you could be for example hallucinating a cup, etc.So "there is a cup" and "I think there is a cup" mean the same thing? Then there is a cup iff I think there is a cup. — Michael
When you make that statement "there is a cup" it means "I think there is a cup". The statement "there is a cup" itself is purely factual and independent of what you think, but obviously that isn't the case when you make it - it doesn't have that meaning. I mean there are difficulties because you could be for example hallucinating a cup, etc. — Agustino
So whenever we say "there is a cup" we mean "I think there is a cup"? Then how can we ever (correctly) claim that "there is a cup" is a factual statement that is independent of what we think? Because in making this claim we're claiming that "I think there is a cup" is a factual statement that is independent of what we think. — Michael
Does the above make sense? — Michael
If you agree that Trump is the worst candidate for office, then you believe that Trump is the worst candidate for office. — darthbarracuda
"I agree that there is a cup and there isn't a cup."
Does the above make sense? — Michael
If "I agree that there is a cup" and "there is a cup" mean different things... — Michael
But it could also be argued that the statements "I agree that there is a cup" and "there is a cup" are doing the same thing – asserting that there is a cup — Michael
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