be miserable in the domain of the real, or giving up reality for wealth and power in a dreamworld. What choice would you make? — frank
Yeah, being in control is overrated. It entails responsibility over one's life, and actually thinking. What a drag. — Posty McPostface
You're associating freedom with reality as Moliere did. Assuming you have greater freedom outside a dream or matrix, what value do you find in that freedom? — frank
Who knows such things? You can't doubt the process of doubting itself, so as long as your able to doubt or are willing to consider the possibility that it's a sham, then there's the chance that through that volition will arise an answer to those doubts. — Posty McPostface
If it's all impossible then the whole issue becomes moot, but that's an epistempic gap that can only arise had you been omniscient or continually doubting.
Indeed, who knows such things? And that was the question. — Janus
Perhaps we cannot question the process of doubt; but to doubt anything requires believing something else, and not merely believing that you are doubting, either. — Janus
How do any "answers" elevate themselves above the sea of doubt and belief? That is the question of all questions. — Janus
What does this mean? — Janus
I hope I clarified it with the above... — Posty McPostface
Why would anyone consciously choose to limit themselves? Because within the boundaries of a known and predictable matrix it's relatively comfortable, right? — praxis
Well, the first question was as to how we could know, not about the possibly solipsistic implications of omniscience; which seems entirely unrelated. — Janus
The statement after that was about the intrinsic relationship between doubt and belief, and your response said nothing at all about belief. — Janus
The second question was about how we can be sure of our answers, and your response spoke only of the possibility of answers. Do you mean the possibility of answers of which we could be certain, and if so how would that reconcile with the "as long as you can still doubt"? Because it seems that if answers were certain, then there would be no possibility of doubt, so I'm quite confused as to what you want to say here. — Janus
So, how can we know? Through doubting. I hope that's simple enough. — Posty McPostface
What I'm getting at is that doubt can only exist if there is a lack in knowledge. — Posty McPostface
In a dream everything is perfectly clear, there's no room for/to doubt the existence of the dream world itself because there is no room for doubt itself. — Posty McPostface
Are you talking about certainty? — Posty McPostface
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