On my view, facts are events. Events cannot be false. I proposed having a set of facts that everyone agrees to. The agreement doesn't make them facts. The agreement makes them uncontroversial. — creativesoul
however when we think we observe an event, we don't know wether we actually observe an event, or are just delusional or hallucinating. — Tomseltje
...human reports of events are not nessesarily consistent with the events, but we can only discuss human reports of events... — Tomseltje
To treat those as facts, means that we already apply the axiom that the human reports of events can be treated as facts as if enough humans provide the samer report of events. — Tomseltje
Strictly speaking from my own, human reports are statements about the facts. Statements can be true/false. Facts cannot. — creativesoul
Everything is human report?
Nah. Horrible form of monism... — creativesoul
But all we talk about are human reports. What I say is my report to you, what you say is your report to me. — Tomseltje
I discuss trees. Trees are a part of everything discussed. Therefore, not everything discussed is human report. — creativesoul
Humans use their senses to observe the world, but there is not a 100% guarantee they will accurately represent what is happening 100% of the time. — Tomseltje
Looks like a tree to me. My conception is made out of language and stuff. The tree is not. Conceptions can be wrong. Trees cannot. — creativesoul
So, the argument is we can be certain that it is possible for us to be mistaken, therefore... — creativesoul
You're lost brother. Go pick on someone smaller. I'll kick your ass. That's my MO. As I've already said, your posts are an exercise in spotting fallacy in the wild. — creativesoul
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