Not much into playing music during sex. It feels contrived. But, Manson’s “Deformography” worked well in the past. A bit dark, but it builds in intensity and has a great rhythm. The lyrics seem sexual to me too.



As for other events, I think bands like Queens of the Stone Age and Stone Temple Pilots are great to listen to on long drives.

But, Manson’s “Deformography” worked well in the past — Pinprick

Having listened, read the lyrics and his background - interesting how it might 'work' for some.
Manson. Not for me. But thanks for sharing. What is it about Manson that attracts ?

When you wish upon your star
Don't let yourself fall... fall in too hard

I fell into you now I'm on my back
An insect decaying in your little trap
I squirm into you now I'm in your gut
I fell into you now I'm in a rut

Lift you up like the sweetest angel
I tear you down like a whore
I will bury your god in my warm spit
You'll be deformed in your porn

(Rock star... you're such a)
ROCK STAR, YEAH (you're such a dirty, dirty)
ROCK STAR, YEAH (you're such a dirty, dirty)
ROCK STAR, YEAH (you're such a dirty, dirty)
ROCK STAR, YEAH (dirty, dirty, dirty)

You eat up my heart and all the little parts
Your star is so sharp it leaves me jagged holes
I make myself sick just to poison you
If i can't have you then no one will

You are the one I want and what I want is so unreal
You are the one I want and what I want is so unreal
You are the one I want and what I want is so unreal
You are the one I want and what I want is so unreal

I'm such a dirty rock star yeah

(I am the one you want and what you want is so unreal)

Songwriters: Manson Marilyn, Ramirez Twiggy, Reznor Trent
For non-commercial use only.
Data From: Musixmatch

After the rage. Music to calm.
Deep breaths. Let it be :sparkle:

Brian Eno - Thursday Afternoon (61 Minute Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggLTPyRXUKc

The Beatles - Help!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q_ZzBGPdqE

This one I missed. From:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/598145
Excellent :sparkle:

Bach: Toccata and Fugue, BWV 565 - Tariq Harb, guitar (9:21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jtuTCy8RXg

"Shake" (2:35)
Otis Blue: Otis Redding Sings Soul, 1965
writer Sam Cooke, 1964 (last song d. 1964)
performer Otis Redding



"(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" (2:45)
Otis Blue: Otis Redding Sings Soul, 1965
writers The Glimmer Twins, 1965
performer Otis Redding



"Respect" (2:05)
Otis Blue: Otis Redding Sings Soul, 1965
writer Otis Redding, 1965
performer Otis Redding

Manson. Not for me. — Amity

Lol, yeah I figured as much.

What is it about Manson that attracts ? — Amity

Well, it’s partly just preference; I just so happen to enjoy this type of music, but I’m sure there’s also personal reasons. Without writing a novel, he basically started me on the path to “philosophy” by questioning things I had taken as true. So, I’ll always be grateful for that. But yeah, not exactly role model material.

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Well, it’s partly just preference; I just so happen to enjoy this type of music, but I’m sure there’s also personal reasons. — Pinprick

Yes. Preference or taste in music. Does that say anything at all about the person who links to a particular piece of music ? Or who doesn't want to try any other flavour ?
Elsewhere, I likened music to ice-cream.
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/597962

That was in response to:

Music, then, a kind of portal. There is its manifest surface, the sound, but also an invitation to enter, both as far as you like, and as far as the music will take you. My own bias no doubt shared by many, is that music that has stood at least some test of time keeps more of its promises as to what it offers. — @ tim wood

So, returning to the music of Manson - if it is seen as a portal, or a way to 'transport' you - where does the music take you ? Elysian fields ?

...he basically started me on the path to “philosophy” by questioning things I had taken as true. — Pinprick

So, this has more to do with the lyrics ? The message sent out ?
From the song you linked to:

Lift you up like the sweetest angel
I tear you down like a whore
I will bury your god in my warm spit
You'll be deformed in your porn — Amity

Where is the philosophy here ?

So, I’ll always be grateful for that — Pinprick

Perhaps so. However, don't you think you were already on a 'quest' of sorts ? Questioning beliefs.
How long ago was that ?
How much have you questioned the 'philosophy' or motivation of the one you are grateful to ?
Do you still have him buried/burrowed in your head ?

But yeah, not exactly role model material. — Pinprick

Well, his role as singer/musician seems to have inspired a few admirers ?
Can we separate the product from the producer ?

Back to ice-cream.
I always preferred vanilla rather than the addition of synthetic flavours. I could add my favourite fruits or whatever for any 'je ne sais quoi'.
But then, I travelled to Italy. The land of music and ice-cream and the Mafia etc, etc....
Il gelato alla pesca. Classic with real peaches. Yum :cool:

And so many flavours and rhythms of music to listen to.
River strolling, head-banging; swaying or swearing...and so much more...along the way...

I'm not sure you could even think of Manson as a sweet.
However, from the types and tastes here:
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2009/jul/14/learn-italian-phrases-ice-cream

Possibly - a hard, cold, icy, dark granito balsamico ?

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(A brief selection ...)



Passion 67:03
Peter Gabriel, 1989

Robin Trower and James Dewar rock my boat.

This is a live recording. Pretty tight.

Does that say anything at all about the person who links to a particular piece of music ? Or who doesn't want to try any other flavour ? — Amity

I think it probably does, but my reasons for liking X may be different than your reasons for liking X. So it isn’t like you can say “oh, you like X, you nest be Y type of person.”

where does the music take you ? — Amity

I like different styles of music, so it depends. But generally speaking music that’s aggressive or controversial is kind of cathartic to me. I’m a very reserved, self-conscious person; always in control of my emotions, etc. But this type of music allows me to let go of my inhibitions.

So, this has more to do with the lyrics ? The message sent out ? — Amity

Well, it’s both. I mean you can find anti-religious music in many genres, for example, but they all don’t resonate the same way.

Where is the philosophy here ? — Amity

I don’t think this song’s particularly deep.

However, don't you think you were already on a 'quest' of sorts ? Questioning beliefs.
How long ago was that ? — Amity

No. I was raised in a small town where everyone was the same. From race, to religion, to politics, to socio-economic status. As a result, you never bump into someone who challenges your beliefs. I discovered Manson when I was about 16, so 2002-2003. Something like that.

How much have you questioned the 'philosophy' or motivation of the one you are grateful to ? — Amity

I never considered his personal philosophy much. I’m not really sure what that even is. He just got me wondering things like “what if God doesn’t exist?”

Do you still have him buried/burrowed in your head ? — Amity

I don’t know what you mean exactly. I still like his music, at least his older stuff.

Can we separate the product from the producer ? — Amity

I think so. His main three albums (Antichrist Superstar, Mechanical Animals, and Holywood) were concept albums that all connected to form a triptych. So there’s multiple characters involved in the story he’s telling, and it is meant to be a story. But there’s definitely autobiographical information in it as well.

Possibly - a hard, cold, icy, dark granito balsamico ? — Amity

Lol, sounds about right.

Happy Birthday, Sean b. 1975

I never considered his personal philosophy much. I’m not really sure what that even is. He just got me wondering things like “what if God doesn’t exist?”

Do you still have him buried/burrowed in your head ?
— Amity

I don’t know what you mean exactly. I still like his music, at least his older stuff. — Pinprick

Thanks for your reply.
Re: being influenced by anyone.
Sometimes, songs get stuck in our heads. Like an earworm burrowing in. Usually, it's just a catchy song which begins to irritate after a while.

There can be certain cult-like elements which might send negative vibes or messages.
Interesting to consider music and its effects on our thoughts, emotions and moods...
Also, the philosophy of the musician/singer...

Good to talk :cool:

"People of the Sun" (2:50)
Evil Empire, 1996
Rage Against the Machine

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(In the US)

Happy Columbus Indigenous People's Day!

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"Mercy Mercy Me" (3:14)
What's Going On, 1971
Marvin Gaye

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"San Jacinto" (6:21)
Peter Gabriel (Security), 1982
Peter Gabriel

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"Homeless" (3:48)
Graceland, 1986
writers Joseph Shabalala & Paul Simon
performers Lady Blacksmith Mambazo, feat. Paul Simon

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"Fight the Power" (4:42, album version)
Fear of a Black Planet, 1990
Public Enemy

:death: :flower:

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☮!

"Dense" by Univers Zero. The whole thing is great, but there's a section from 3:46 that culminates in an oboe (or cor anglais) solo that's particularly beautiful.

BBC Radio 3
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0010gw1

Big Cosmic Energy

Elizabeth Alker drifts to the edges of ambient and electronic music, and explores the spaces in between. This week features soaring new music that reaches up to the sky by singer Hayden Thorpe. Hayden climbed not one but two mountains to record the music video and said of the experience, “Summit fever took over us. When you’re suspended between rock and sky there’s an explosion of the senses”. Plus a cut from a luxurious vinyl reissue of The Caretaker’s series of albums that catalogue his experience of early onset dementia, and German kosmische musik pioneers Popul Vuh invite you into their expansive cinematic world.

:cool:

R.E.M. - Everybody Hurts (Official Music Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rOiW_xY-kc

Chilling out watching Sky Arts - Paul Simon: Live in Central Park 1991.
1,000's of fans. Incredible sight and sound.

Still Crazy After All These Years: Live from Central Park, 1991 (Live Performance Video)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yVK3tTBJze4

:clap: :cool:

Anticipating my receipt next week of the Giles Martin-remixed Let It Be Super Deluxe CD set released today, here's a mini-suite from the Fabs ...

Sweet Loretta fart
she thought she was a cleaner,
but she was a frying pan ...

"For You Blue" (2:32)
Harrison, 1968-69

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t8UeWjynWvE
"One After 909" (2:54)
Lennon-McCartney, 1957/1958, 1969

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DbKPZd5oihc
"I've Got a Feeling" (3:37)
Lennon-McCartney, 1968-69

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cLQox8e9688
"Two of Us" (3:36)
Lennon-McCartney, 1969

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=seqaTuXkqFI
"I, Me, Mine" (2:26)
Harrison, 1969-70


Let It Be, 1970 (35:10)
co-producer George Martin, 1969
co-producers, performers The Beatles, 1969-70
"over-produced" by Phil Spector, 1970^^

I'd like to say thank you on behalf of the group and ourselves ... — 30 January 1969, a rooftop, London, UK

^^George Martin

"Home of the Brave/ The Individual" by Spiritualized