What's the story about how a mighty OT comes to be a neurotic wimp that has to or wants to or ought to, go through the process of rehabilitation? What power, other than our own has bound us to this mortal coil? — unenlightened
Let me make my mistakes on my own, I don't need your help. — Jerry Garcia
Have you visited Operation Clambake? — fdrake
This seems to be a reaction to Abrahamic faiths, rather than a standalone religion — BaldMenFighting
Thetans have a huge age, lots of zeroes added, feels like somebody is trying to impress us. Of course, l say this in the absence of any evidence, but is there actually any evidence for "a 76,000,000,000,000 year old soul called a thetan"? If not, then it seems like someone's trying to impress us with how ancient they are. — BaldMenFighting
Under which legislature is a 1 million year contract unvoidable by default? — Akanthinos
Doesn't it fills you with shame, having to realize you believed in such undiluted bullcrap for any amount of time? — Akanthinos
werent there times, often even, when you thought, "wow, this shit reads like bad sci-fi"? — Akanthinos
I fail to see how anyone believing in the claims of Scientology isn't stupid. — LD Saunders
These claims have no credible evidence backing them up and are as outlandish as hell, and there is no credible way for the founder of Scientology to have any knowledge of such claims either. — LD Saunders
Religion isnt about consistency, tho. It is never going to be consistent, really, because by nature an overarching sets of ordering beliefs about the world is going to be as diverse and rich as the culture which created it. — Akanthinos
When you say a soul is the soul of an alien who died 76 million years ago... that means nothing. Say what you will about Christianity, Judaism or Islam, but they generally do effectively sets meaningful behavioural guidelines to vast populations, and still have those cultures either maintain themselves or thrives. — Akanthinos
If you look around on this forum, you'll find plenty of evidence that people can say stuff pretty consistently, and yet only ever say stuff that doesn't make any sense. — Akanthinos
has a list of 'suppressive persons' (of which my brother and I are proud to be on) — fdrake
-But if the religion was consistent wouldn't it be less likely for members to doubt because of contradictory claims?
Religious belief doesnt work like other sets of beliefs, where each proposition will be weighted against the whole to rate the overall set consistency, and then compare different sets before adopting them. — Akanthinos
People who believe in a literal interpretation of Christianity, etc., are stupid. Even if there are a large number of such people, that does not make them any less stupid. — LD Saunders
If you have any specific questions ask away. — Grey Vs Gray
it depicts Hubbard as a charlatan, pathological liar, and possibly a paedophile. — Wayfarer
sole purpose is to enrich themselves at the expense of innocent victims. — Wayfarer
But as they sell their material then they certainly should be taxed at the maximum corporate rate, as they are in Germany. — Wayfarer
Not taxing religions in my opinion is counter to "keeping religion out of government." — Grey Vs Gray
Well, if you want to forego the obvious advantages of having dedicated care-givers who act from a sense of duty to God and mankind, in favour of them being salaried professionals like everyone else, then I'd guess you would be right. — Wayfarer
Fundamentally Scientologists believe that everyone is a 76,000,000,000,000 year old soul called a thetan — Grey Vs Gray
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