Come to think of it, you've used language yet you haven't said anything.And what did I seem to be saying I was falsifying? — Terrapin Station
Come to think of it, you've used language yet you haven't said anything. — Harry Hindu
Shouldn't good and evil be identified or discovered rather than labelled? — Andrew4Handel
I see nothing arbitrary about the above definitions? — Devans99
Good is pleasure > pain for individual and groups.
Evil is pleasure < pain for individual and groups.
I see nothing arbitrary about the above definitions?
I don't see what other metric apart from pleasure/pain that could be used? — Devans99
But what I am saying is before you need to define evil you should already have a consciousness it. For example if you see someone kicking a dog to death it seems ludicrous to need to go beyond the immediate manifestation to work out if it is evil. — Andrew4Handel
I would not consider a painful injury evil and I would certainly not call all pleasure good such as the pleasures Nazi's or slave owners experienced — Andrew4Handel
The way the individual or group views pain/pleasure while perhaps not quite arbitrary will be different between individuals and groups (and with individuals within a group) and in the sense that the differences in how pain/pleasure is viewed — DingoJones
You would certainly not call a painful injury good so by process of elimination it must be evil? — Devans99
Exercise is good for the individual. — Devans99
Pleasure and pain by definition pertain to good and bad. — DingoJones
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