And I think you'd be incredibly naive to assume things that you don't have evidence for. — Terrapin Station
It's all about their attempt to obtain power at all costs. It has nothing to do with righteousness. To think otherwise is incredibly naive. — Hanover
Giving up when challenged with a dirty trick is exactly what will bring this scenario you fear about quicker. — fdrake
Go tell that to the NAACP.I don't know if you are an American yourself, but "colored people" is a somewhat antiquated term to refer to certain ethnic minorities (especially blacks/African-Americans). It doesn't appear as if you meant anything pejorative by it, but it still strikes one as being a bit "off." — Arkady
I don't see any real evidence here of GOP voter suppression, but that isn't to say that it doesn't exist. What we do have is real evidence of Democrat voter suppression. Remember the 2016 Democratic primary?In poll after poll, we know that the vast majority of Americans side with the left on virtually every public policy issue. We also know that in presidential elections, the GOP candidate seldom wins the popular vote, in recent decades. So, why should anyone be surprised when we hear of the GOP committing voter suppression where they are tossing out the ballots of colored people who are likely to vote against them? After all, since the majority of Americans are opposed to the GOP's policies, the GOP has to take a stand against democracy to maintain power. Yet, I have never heard a single mainstream news network connect these dots. Instead, when reporting on voter suppression, they focus on the suppression of likely democratic votes within a specific county or state region, as opposed to recognizing that the problem with the GOP is nation-wide. — LD Saunders
No, I'm not black, but rest assured that black people (f/k/a "colored people" or "negroes") have empowered me to speak blackly on their behalf on all matters relating to blackness, including on the proper use of descriptive terms pertaining thereto. Glad we cleared that up.Go tell that to the NAACP.
Are you black? If not, then why are you speaking for all of them (making a generalization), as if they ALL would be offended by the term, "colored people"? How racist. — Harry Hindu
Arkady: Why should I say in three words what I can say in two? I'm economically efficient with my rhetoric. "People of color" sounds like a throwback to Che's era if anything is. — LD Saunders
Uhh.. The NAACP is a black organization calling themselves "Colored People". Obviously not all blacks think that it is an improper descriptive term. Those blacks who think that it should be are racist in thinking that other blacks shouldn't think for themselves.Go tell that to the NAACP.
Are you black? If not, then why are you speaking for all of them (making a generalization), as if they ALL would be offended by the term, "colored people"? How racist. — Harry Hindu
No, I'm not black, but rest assured that black people (f/k/a "colored people" or "negroes") have empowered me to speak blackly on their behalf on all matters relating to blackness, including on the proper use of descriptive terms pertaining thereto. Glad we cleared that up. — Arkady
Genetic fallacy.You do realize that the NAACP was formed over 100 years ago, don't you? — Arkady
"The term 'colored' is not derogatory," [NAACP communications director] Sims continued. "[The NAACP founders] chose the word 'colored' because it was the most positive description commonly used at that time. It's outdated and antiquated but not offensive."
What is offensive is subjective. Claiming that you are offended is just a passive-aggressive way of limiting free speech.Colored: DATED•OFFENSIVE
a person who is wholly or partly of non-white descent."
Google. — Baden
Claiming that you are offended is just a passive-aggressive way of limiting free speech. — Harry Hindu
Yet we have comedians pushing the envelope of what is acceptable to say. We have new words with new meanings, and even old words with new meanings (take the n-word for example. It isn't offensive to some because they accept being called the name).No, that's not the way it works in a society with norms of communication that are generally accepted and agreed upon. It's about as sensible as saying that claiming that this paper stuff I have in my hand is dollars is purely subjective, or claiming that Donald Trump is the President of the United States is purely subjective. — Baden
That person on the street doesn't know me. Their use of words speaks volumes about them and nothing about me. I won't get offended by that because I know the person saying it is the actual cunt for behaving in such a way.I guess it's based on the obvious falsity that being offended is always a choice as if if someone came up to you on the street and shouted "get out of my way, you cunt" you could somehow choose not to feel anything at all. — Baden
It's always a bizarre non-sequitur to me when people conflate a legal or constitutional right to free speech with the "right" to not have said speech criticized (which, ironically, would thereby limit the free speech of their critics - free speech for me and not for thee, in other words).Et voila, a get out of jail free card for racists, sexists, homophobes and miscellaneous verbal abusers everywhere. After all, they are the real victims just exercising their right to free speech while their targets are the real culprits with all this passive-aggressive being offended! — Baden
Here's why it's insulting:I am an American, and disagree that mentioning colored people is in any way insulting — LD Saunders
I don't find your reasoning very compelling. You know that the term is considered offensive by some people, and abandoning the term doesn't constrain your ability to communicate since other terms are available that have the exact same referrent. Therefore willfully continuing to use the term implies you're fine with offending some people.I don't find the "association with a bleak past" very compelling — Bitter Crank
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