I am not sure what you mean by IDENTICAL. Is there some way in which the phenomenal qualities of colors, sounds, feelings and the private subjective worlds in which they appear are identical to the objective particles and their interactions ? — lorenzo sleakes
A=A, or, say, A=B, where "B" is simply another name or another way of making verbal reference to A. A classic example of that is Frege's "morning star" and "evening star." They're both Venus. Venus is identical to Venus. The extension is identical in an A=A sense.I am not sure what you mean by IDENTICAL. — lorenzo sleakes
No one said that extramental phenomena are identical to mental phenomena. What I pointed out was that as mental phenomena, they're identical to brain states (to materialists or physicalists, or which I am one). That's because "mental state" and "brain state" pick out the same thing extensionally, just like "morning star" and "evening star" do.Is there some way in which the phenomenal qualities of colors, sounds, feelings and the private subjective worlds in which they appear are identical to the objective particles and their interactions ?
No. According to materialists/physicalists the physical stuff--namely, a BRAIN in particular states is identical to mental stuff. They're the same thing. It's just two different names for the same thing, or two different ways/contexts of talking and thinking about it, a la "morning star" and "evening star."Even if there was some bridging principle then wouldnt according to materialists, the physical causes be primary and the mental entirely dependent on it and therefore emerge out of it?
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