Acceptance of the idea that the oppressed have license to condemn whole groups of people contributes to racism because it represents approval of the very thing a racist does.. — Mongrel
One needs to ask whether Farrakhan's 'white man' is a race or an institution, but from the position of an instance of the institution, it comes to the same thing. — unenlightened
Did Jews who condemned the German people en masse for their acquiescence to Nazism somehow contribute to racism? Hardly. Does their attitude suggest they were racist / bigoted? Not really. Were they justified in feeling antipathy towards every German for the behaviour of the Nazis. Strictly speaking, no, but... — Baden
One needs to ask whether Farrakhan's 'white man' is a race or an institution, — unenlightened
Did Jews who condemned the German people en masse for their acquiescence to Nazism somehow contribute to racism? Hardly. — Baden
I see some distinctions here, though. Germany as a nation was the enemy in WW2 and they were officially Nazis. So, to hate those Germans and those Nazis was not racist. The enemy was clearly defined. I would say, though, that if in 1940, you hated a German immigrant in the US who had nothing to do with the atrocities solely because he was German, you'd have been racist (considering some Germans were Jews). And certainly you'd be racist today if you continued hating the krauts. — Hanover
On another note, could you guys add a feature so that when a post says "Jew" in it, I get notified, just like when it says hanover? — Hanover
All doable within the current system, mon ami. Just set up another account with the user name "Jew". I will then make a new rule that everyone must write Jew instead of "Jew" when referring to said ethnic group. I'm sure that will be a crowd-pleaser. :-* — Baden
The Germans were acquiescing to Nazism well before WWII started (and I use "Germans" as a convenient shorthand for "Germanic people"). — Baden
But isn't the decision to be very observant (like being ultra-orthodox or strictly Methodist) your problem rather than everybody else's? — Bitter Crank
But that's already a generalisation that is neither true nor useful. It is arguable whether there was ever even a majority of Germans that could reasonably be described as Nazis — Barry Etheridge
(And I do need to remind you that Germanic peoples include the English so your shorthand is itself of a shorthand that is wildly inaccurate!) — Barry Etheridge
Any attempt to view the persecution of the Jews as a collective act of the German people is itself therefore nothing but propaganda . — Barry Etheridge
now thankfully ruled unconstitutional — Barry Etheridge
There is of course considerable historical support for the observation that when freed from oppression the oppressed become oppressors. The interesting thing is that it is usually not those who actually suffered that are responsible but the first generation after them, those seeking 'justice' by which, of course, they usually, if unconsciously, revenge, for their parents. — Barry Etheridge
the oppressed need to more precisely identify the oppressors and focus their anger, hatred and militant actions instead of indiscriminately dispersing them across whole peoples. — John
Nazi-hunters — Barry Etheridge
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