plus a few seconds of the 5th (that scene in the Simpson's where the whole town gets up to leave the symphony after 5 seconds of Da Da da Daaaa nails it). — ZhouBoTong
Haha, that's brilliant. I didn't know of that scene. — S
Can you guarantee to control your drug use and it's effects on you and others? — tim wood
Assuming your answer is yes, does your taking illegal drugs do your community any harm? Answer: of course it does. — tim wood
does your taking illegal drugs do your community any harm? Answer: of course it does. — tim wood
Are you arguing that "emotions" are somehow comparable with taking illegal drugs? — tim wood
"Taking illegal drugs is like having emotions because..." — tim wood
Really? Are you for real? Around here we call it the opioid crisis. Where are you from?
From a .gov, "National Drug Overdose Deaths—Number Among All Ages, by Gender, 1999-2017. More than 70,200 Americans died from drug overdoses in 2017, including illicit drugs and prescription opioids—a 2-fold increase in a decade. The figure above is a bar and line graph showing the total number of U.S. overdose deaths involving all drugs from 1999 to 2017." But gosh, that's just the ODs.
So, yes, I assert that taking illegal drug harms your community. Any argument with that? — tim wood
Question: are you a member of a community? Assuming your answer is yes, does your taking illegal drugs do your community any harm? Answer: of course it does. — tim wood
both can lead to potential harms if they are used irresponsibly — ZhouBoTong
This has the mark of sense to it!Yet, I'm not so hot on the idea of legalizing them, as much as decriminalizing them. — Wallows
Can you justify your claim that taking illegal drugs necessarily harms the community? On the face of it, that seems like a ridiculous statement. — Janus
But perhaps this way: can you indicate a community of which the user is a member that is not harmed? — tim wood
And the harm of illegal drugs — tim wood
Used? Human beings have emotions; they don't use them. — tim wood
Seem to me you do not know what a category error is. Sugar is dangerous? Maybe sugar should be banned? Every thing is dangerous. Shall we ban everything? Or the reverse, everything isdangerous, so everything is ok? These are all implicated by your form of argument. — tim wood
I still don't understand why you think any community, let's consider just the immediate family, for example, is necessarily harmed by one of their members taking illegal drugs. — Janus
Seem to me you do not know what a category error is. Sugar is dangerous? Maybe sugar should be banned? Every thing is dangerous. Shall we ban everything? Or the reverse, everything is dangerous, so everything is ok? These are all implicated by your form of argument.
— tim wood
That is exactly what your argument looks like to me. That was the point. — ZhouBoTong
There's really no escaping it. The taker of illegal drugs betrays all of his communities. And even if he abandons his community and they forced to think it best, but the loss is still a harm. — tim wood
Would most of these harms to the community be wiped out if certain illegal drugs were decriminalized? — Noah Te Stroete
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