I have no clue at all what you are saying about the factual existence of god and neither do you. — Rank Amateur
No. They are unprovable, untestable hypotheses. There are no CONCEIVABLE experiments to test their validity. This was not the case with the Higgs Boson. — Noah Te Stroete
Furthermore, internal consistency in mathematics may not refer to anything in reality. M theory may be mathematical fantasy. — Noah Te Stroete
How do you determine that an argument is reasonable?
— Isaac
I find the premises true and the conclusion follows. — Rank Amateur
But you're asking other people to agree that theism is reasonable. They can't be expected to hold that belief on the basis that you find the premises true and the conclusion follows. — Isaac
What I am saying about String “Theory” and M “Theory” is that they are no better than me saying there is a universe where I am king of the world. My language of English makes this possible. The language of mathematics (which is pure tautology) makes it possible for physicists to say there are 11 dimensions. — Noah Te Stroete
Then say “why” you are unconvinced that it is sound. Then Rank Amateur, AJJ, and you can have something consequential to argue about. — Noah Te Stroete
I’ve always argued that certain things are a matter of faith. I’m just showing that most if not all of us have faith in something. — Noah Te Stroete
My P6 only says
P6. There are arguments – based on reason – an “un-created – creator” existed
And I grant as below
P7. The arguments if P6 – have reasonable counter arguments — Rank Amateur
I have yet to pin you down on any belief, as you refuse to give one. If or once you do, then I’m sure I can show it is a matter of faith. If the jury’s out for you, then I’m afraid you will be waiting till after the day you die, as we must all remain ignorant of the cause of the Big Bang, assuming even that remains true. I believe in God because this belief guides my life into a better, happier one. I know this from having experienced being a staunch atheist for 13+ years. — Noah Te Stroete
It depends what you mean by “reasonable”. I believe it is reasonable to believe something that improves your life. If being a skeptic improves your life, then I say it is reasonable for you. However, you seem like a miserable lout. — Noah Te Stroete
You refuse to try. You can always try. I’m not asking you to try, though. I couldn’t care less about assholes, God bless them! Lol — Noah Te Stroete
I don’t have to opt for the pleasure machine. I’m not a miserable lout. Lol — Noah Te Stroete
And what do you know about truth? — Noah Te Stroete
I don’t believe it because I wish it. I believe it because I can’t imagine why matter should form into life and become conscious without God. — Noah Te Stroete
And I don’t wish to meet you. You are quite enough in this medium. Lol — Noah Te Stroete
I fail to see how any of those things would improve my life (and I should include the caveat that it shouldn’t harm others as well). Believing things that would get me committed if I acted on them wouldn’t improve my life. And believe me, I would know, as someone who has spent time on several psych wards. Lol — Noah Te Stroete
Furthermore, it’s not an epistemic standard in that it is a source of knowledge. Justified true belief is knowledge, and having that is one way to be rational. I’m proposing another way. — Noah Te Stroete
How do you determine that an argument is reasonable?
— Isaac
I find the premises true and the conclusion follows.
— Rank Amateur
But you're asking other people to agree that theism is reasonable. They can't be expected to hold that belief on the basis that you find the premises true and the conclusion follows.
— Isaac
You've got him there. Nicely done. :ok: — S
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↪Isaac no - I am asking others to respect the belief that theism is a reasonable belief. I am not asking that they find theism reasonable. — Rank Amateur
I am asking others to respect the belief that theism is a reasonable belief. I am not asking that they find theism reasonable. — Rank Amateur
I am asking others to respect the belief that theism is a reasonable belief. I am not asking that they find theism reasonable. — Rank Amateur
Maybe you mean something like tolerate or "leave people alone in what you take to be their unreasonableness"? — Terrapin Station
I wouldn't say that a belief is reasonable just because it's the conclusion of a valid argument — Terrapin Station
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