I do feel comfortable enough in my knowledge of education or the arts to justify any insults - for example: Shakespeare is OK at best (brilliant use of language but garbage stories). — ZhouBoTong
It seems a given in educated circles that Shakespeare and DaVinci created "better" art than, lets say, Michael Bay (makes movies that many would consider "low brow" like Transformers or Armageddon). Is there even a little justification for this? — ZhouBoTong
I agree, we are definitely forced to agree with the supposedly 'intelligent' opinions of those in the arts. Shakespeare, Da Vinci, Michelangelo, etc. — OpinionsMatter
It seems a given in educated circles that Shakespeare and DaVinci created "better" art than, lets say, Michael Bay (makes movies that many would consider "low brow" like Transformers or Armageddon). Is there even a little justification for this? — ZhouBoTong
My opinion, however, is that they are great only for what they have done for us as a society, — OpinionsMatter
I love Love love Hamlet. Best play ever. Perhaps I’m an elite? Excuse me while I belch and pass gas. — Noah Te Stroete
OK, what is the justification then? Why is Hamlet, for example, a garbage story compared to, say, the story of Transformers or whatever? — Baden
I agree, we are definitely forced to agree with the supposedly 'intelligent' opinions of those in the arts. Shakespeare, Da Vinci, Michelangelo, etc. Why should the Mona Lisa still be considered something important in our history, when learning about the now(Current times) is possibly more fruitful? And who deemed those paintings and stories as 'the greats'? If we ran a poll, would the world still prefer old vs new or historical vs modern? — OpinionsMatter
Lots of justifications for both opinions in there. Have at them! — Baden
Does one have to know anything about art to say "I like that one, the other one, not so much"? — ZhouBoTong
I do feel comfortable enough in my knowledge of education or the arts to justify any insults - for example: Shakespeare is OK at best (brilliant use of language but garbage stories). — ZhouBoTong
Of course, it's unlikely Michael Bay will ever be one of them — Baden
There are reasons why certain artists are considered more important than others, and the reasons have to do primarily, as Brett pointed out, with what they offer us of value in terms of insights into human nature, truth, reality etc. And that's not just asserted, but explored and justified in depth in literature and other humanities courses. — Baden
An example of the elitism I was talking about. So Transformers is not even art? Can any movie be art if some movies are not? Even a documentary has many artistic elements that would not exist in text (and some text is rather dry while some has more artistic elements).not trying to do art — Baden
This doesn’t suggest a knowledge of art. If anything it suggests very little understanding of art. If you had a better understanding of art but didn’t like a piece then I’m pretty sure you’d express it differently. — Brett
Some opinions matter more than others because they're supported better. — Baden
Art is for entertainment. — ZhouBoTong
It only makes you elite if you think you have better tastes in art or literature than I do. — ZhouBoTong
Personally I think Seinfeld is more important than Plato for students now. — old
This shows us that they are able to tap into something that others recognise. I personally think the subjectivity of art is to do with each persons emotional disposition. Depending on your character and experiences your more likely to find artwork X more engaging than artwork Y because either X taps into emotions ou wish to explore whilst Y taps into emotions don’t wish to explore ... this is not to say “positive” or “negative” emotions as this woudl depend on where ou are in our life and the kind of questions that matter to you. — I like sushi
I personally think the subjectivity of art is to do with each persons emotional disposition. Depending on your character and experiences your more likely to find artwork X more engaging than artwork Y because either X taps into emotions ou wish to explore — I like sushi
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