My contention has been that it is only in relation to empirical (and logical and mathematical) matters that definitive inter-subjective corroboration in a cross-cultural sense is possible. — Janus
Hannah Gadsby
Something tells me that you may find something in her. — creativesoul
The epistemic standard for science is whether a belief about the physical world is justified by other beliefs about the physical world and by sense data and whether the beliefs correspond to actual states of affairs in the physical world. — Noah Te Stroete
That would be true if those were the only matters agreed upon cross-culturally. They are not. — creativesoul
No one who takes it literally is taken seriously these days. I suppose that could just be a sign of Satan’s rule and the End of Times, though. — Noah Te Stroete
Well, one would have to have familiarity with miracles that others could corroborate empirically — Noah Te Stroete
My mistake. Sarcasm can lose it's umph when presented with written word alone. It's easily mistook for sincerity. That's my default position. Trusting that a speaker believes what they are saying. — creativesoul
I know based upon my own driving experience, my own understanding of math and physics, and a strong sense of spatial relations that there are forces acting upon this world that are completely unexplainable by those frameworks. What happened to me is physically impossible by those standards, and yet... it most certainly did happen. — creativesoul
Another example may serve. We can test whether someone is a competent pianist by observation (in the broadest sense including watching and listening) and may even be able to grade their level of proficiency using criteria that may be observed, but we cannot precisely determine their degree of musicianship, even though connoisseurs may largely agree. The Zen case of agreeing and certifying that someone is enlightened may be similar to this latter example involving connoisseurship.. — Janus
I’m a foundationalist — Noah Te Stroete
How isn't this synonymous with declaring yourself a person of faith? — Hanover
I know based upon my own driving experience, my own understanding of math and physics, and a strong sense of spatial relations that there are forces acting upon this world that are completely unexplainable by those frameworks. What happened to me is physically impossible by those standards, and yet... it most certainly did happen. — creativesoul
I know based upon my own driving experience, my own understanding of math and physics, and a strong sense of spatial relations that there are forces acting upon this world that are completely unexplainable by those frameworks. What happened to me is physically impossible by those standards, and yet... it most certainly did happen.
— creativesoul
I've experienced a couple things like that, when I was tripping pn LSD. — Janus
What do you mean? — Noah Te Stroete
How isn't this synonymous with declaring yourself a person of faith?
— Hanover
What do you mean? — Noah Te Stroete
An Evangelical Fundamentalist, for example, would declare himself a foundationalist, asserting truth is founded in the Bible and that it can't be challenged, just as you say sense data is foundational in terms of it yielding truth. — Hanover
If you’re asking me if I have faith in my senses, then you may have a point. That’s why I check in with my wife. She’s my eyes and ears on a lot of things. I suppose that is faith, so if that’s your point, then point granted. — Noah Te Stroete
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