Reflections of illegitimate power structures which rely on exploitation — rlclauer
Sometimes, as with Rockefeller, Carnegie, and J.P. Morgan in the latter half the 1800s.
some method of exploitation — rlclauer
here has been for quite some time an obsession with power and looking at everything through the lens of power, domination and exploitation. This narrative sells so well. Especially to young students. — ssu
No, individuals determine their own fate, collectivism is a hindrance — rlclauer
The 'self-made individual' is a fiction of the narcissistic personality, the rugged individualist, the deluded loner.
No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
own were; any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.
And therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. JOHN DONNE, 1572 -1631 — Bitter Crank
If you are talking about physical coercion: the desire to continue material existence. — Tzeentch
where do we begin to create a system which enables free enterprise and the rewarding of ingenious or hardworking person's — rlclauer
I do not think it is controversial to state that your childhood really sets a lifelong trajectory. Can we abandon this narrative that if you just work hard and make good choices you will succeed? — rlclauer
I believe we should temper the western narrative of everyone deserves where they end up, and place more emphasis on social responsibility and economic determinism. I would be interested in reading your thoughts. — rlclauer
So I have heard that "no man is an island" phrase hundreds of times. I just assumed it was some idiom. Thanks for the cultural learnin'. — ZhouBoTong
So ants and fish have that same desire? Not sure if it counts as a desire at that point? — ZhouBoTong
I think it is possible for us to have a stimulating conversation about the outcomes of individual lives within our current economic and political system. — rlclauer
As an individual, the national system that you face, is a given. You cannot hope to change it. On the other hand, there are 200+ such national systems. In terms of what matters to me, at least 100+ of these national systems work absolutely fine.
People act in a manner they deem ‘worthy’.
The systems of hierarchy are products of human social activity
Why make such a weird poll?
Re the second poll question, I think both options you present are misconceived. It's neither "accurate" nor "illegitimate." It's simply a symptom of the way we've set things up and some common belief/idea tendencies in the context of how we've set things up.
When there is an accumulation of gross wealth at the top, deaths of despair and, for the first time in the history of developed countries, decreasing life spans in many regions, and the rise of populism, I think to say it is working just fine is highly inaccurate. — rlclauer
Unless what you mean by "working just fine" is, "well me and the people I care about still got our paychecks," then if that's what you mean, sure, I could see why you would think that way. — rlclauer
but do you think there could be a more improved version of what we call economic organization? — rlclauer
In my opinion, much of these outcomes are the products of the structure of the society, and other factors which have nothing to do with someone's merit or lack thereof. — rlclauer
Of course people prefer to live in comfort rather than a pile of garbage, but the whole subject I am trying to get at, is what produces these outcomes? — rlclauer
Hence, I believe changing the way the economy is structured from the ground up can generate more equality from the starting point, which will translate to more equality at the finishing line, and I believe considering how individuals are constrained or propelled by their circumstances is a good way to see that the current system generates illegitimate hierarchies. — rlclauer
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