It's irrelevant to this particular discussion on whether "whiteness" is a relatively recent invention. — Marchesk
Once again, the lack of melanin in the skin of Europeans was a fact about them before there was a society to allegedly construct it. There's nothing to discuss here. TGW has so thoroughly interred your stupid claim into the ground that you now appear a sucker for punishment. — Thorongil
The "post-enlightment" doesn't demand anyone be ashamed who who they are per se, at least not unless they are doing something wrong — TheWillowOfDarkness
hich chunk of land you consider a continent is arbitrary. But the continents themselves are obviously not. You could have considered Europe three continents, or half of one, if you wanted – but Europe would have been there all the same. — The Great Whatever
To simply be "white" isn't to do anything wrong. — TheWillowOfDarkness
Again, this doesn't strike me as interesting. The confusion of what words are used for what words are used for what things, and what those things are, is a pedestrian one. — The Great Whatever
But the point here is it doesn't. In the situation I was pointing out, "European heritage" or "white" is a social identity category. The one of the various European societies who came to dominate the globe in the last few centuries. It doesn't mean "my ancestors were European." It means: "I am of the ethic group which colonised the world between the 16th and 21st century." — TheWillowOfDarkness
To simply be "white" isn't to do anything wrong. Sure, it means to have racial advantage in the West — TheWillowOfDarkness
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