• creativesoul
    12k
    A bat simply knows when a cat's on the mat
    No doubt can enter while being perceived
    The bat need not know the fact that they do
    For that takes thinking about what's already believed

    Bats directly sense both the cat and the mat
    They need not tell us that's true
    We can figure that out and all by ourselves
    Reports from the subject here must be eschewed

    'Cause there's no such a thing as a bat that can talk
    As a means to confirm what we say
    About what's going on in the mind of a bat
    Yet we certainly know anyway

    That things such as words don't belong in the mouth
    Of a bat or a cat or a shrew
    There's no possible way to know what it's like
    To be any of the three so I bid adieu

    To misguided approaches about what they think
    The animals that have no wordplay
    Before you can say to another you know
    You must first have something to say
  • Banno
    25.3k
    Nice.
  • unenlightened
    9.2k
    A dog simply knows, in excitement it shows.
    What it means when you pick up the lead.
    And can well be deceived by what is perceived
    Through perceptions it's learned how to read.
  • creativesoul
    12k


    :smile:

    But the dog doesn't read books oh no it cannot
    For like cats a dog has no words
    It's reading what's happening what's going on
    To impune propositional attitude's absurd

    A dogs belief is just not linguistic you see
    It can be like an expectation
    For when we open the food bin it knows
    She then jumps around in exhaltation

    :wink:
  • Janus
    16.5k
    Hare Apparent

    A dog chased a hare down a path so bent
    Until it came to a three way division
    It loped one way sniffing for the telltale scent
    That would unveil the way the wily hare went

    Detecting nothing he sniffed down the next
    with still nothing detected, and unperplexed
    He ran down the last, without care or deduction
    while concerning the hare he remained unvexed
  • Janus
    16.5k
    Nice idea, by the way. I hope others respond with more poems.
  • creativesoul
    12k
    The point of this rhyme began about truth
    A word we've not yet had to speak
    'Cause when describing belief of the wordless
    It misleads to get in that deep

    For one without words cannot think about thoughts
    They lack what it takes to do so
    Isolating one's own mental ongoings
    Is language being used ya know

    My cats without words do expect to be fed
    They meet me when I return home
    Purring and pushing their body to leg
    They lead me straight to their bowl

    This shows their belief beyond any doubt
    They expect to me to do what I do
    Their not looking for food they want the treats
    That expectation when met becomes true
  • creativesoul
    12k


    Thanks. Just piddling...
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