Yes, your christian god acts in immoral ways. The Bible tells us so. — Banno
Omnipotent, Perfectly Good God — PhilosophyAttempter
Perfectly good and omnipotent are incompatible. Christians like Ockham and Martin Luther, in consideration of the matter, voted for omnipotence, leaving the problem of goodness still to ad hoc resolutions. — tim wood
From reading about Luther that was basically his problem. If good from God's POV, then may very well be bad from Luther's. But God isn't bad - cannot be bad. According to what I read (now some time ago), Luther decided that God was indeed omnipotent, but had distanced himself, leaving a benign and "good" Jesus Christ for all of us.If that's right then they didn't understand the concepts. It follows from God's omnipotence that everything is good from God's point of view. — bert1
This is a little ambitious. And it leaves the question, if God is an optional idea, a concept, then why believe in a potentially, even actually, misanthropic god? Or if he exists as a real being somehow, how can he (any being) be omnipotent?If that's right then they didn't understand the concepts. — bert1
As a Deist, here's my thoughts on Divine Justice, as revealed in the story of JOB.Was this violating Job’s free will and thus being unjust?
Does this looks bad for God and thus for theists who define God as all good, powerful and just?
I am genuinely not sure where I stand on this dilemma and would be very interested to hear thoughts on this. — PhilosophyAttempter
This is not appropriate fodder for a philosophy forum. But...
Yes, your christian god acts in immoral ways. The Bible tells us so.
You now have to make the decision - will you follow your immoral god, or will you do what is right? — Banno
The failure to establish union with God, failure to seek repentance, or failure to have faith can all resort in damnation to Hell and eternal suffering; however, why would God inflict suffering on someone who fulfills all three conditions above (establishes union with God, seeks repentance, and has faith)?
Job, a blameless being in God’s eyes, is put to the test when Satan challenges his faith to God. — PhilosophyAttempter
God inflicts severe suffering onto Job: kills his family, ends his job, and destroys his health. — PhilosophyAttempter
I’m not quite sure if it was God’s goal to prove Himself to Satan or to set an example for others by doing this, — PhilosophyAttempter
but regardless God intentionally inflicted suffering on a blameless being. — PhilosophyAttempter
If God was an omniscient being, wouldn’t he have known from the beginning that Job would worship Him no matter the pain He inflicts on him? — PhilosophyAttempter
If so, why would He continue to cause pain to a blameless being to prove something to Satan that He already knew to be true. — PhilosophyAttempter
Was this violating Job’s free will and thus being unjust? — PhilosophyAttempter
Does this looks bad for God and thus for theists who define God as all good, powerful and just? — PhilosophyAttempter
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