isn't this a "banal one-liner" in the exact sense you were lamenting Isaac?The truth is massively overrated.
— Isaac — Metaphysician Undercover
isn't this a "banal one-liner" in the exact sense you were lamenting Isaac? — Pantagruel
This has also worked for me.↪Isaac If there's something you desperately want to discuss without interruption, do it by PM. — frank
I guess the dream is to discover an island of sanity in the chaos of online attitudes. A subset of energetic minds that have already digested a lot of interesting books in a lot of interesting areas. — Pantagruel
The truth is massively overrated.
— Isaac
So you're one of them then. When the evidence points to the truth of something other than what you believe, you dismiss the truth as "massively overrated". — Metaphysician Undercover
Secondly, I think you're confusing the notion that "philosophy should be able to be exercised by anyone and everyone" with the posts I was being derogatory toward. Philosophy, if taken seriously, is quite hard, it's not, in my opinion, just 'reckoning some stuff'. This means that a) you'd be crazy not to read at least a summary of what people before you have already thought on the matter, b) it's very unlikely that you'll be so confidently right about any of it as to make the kind of 'you're wrong' single line pronouncements I'm referring to, and c) anything you do think is likely to need to stand on the shoulders of others as explaining the whole thing from first principles would require a book, not a 150 word post. — Isaac
Philosophy, if taken seriously, is quite hard, it's not, in my opinion, just 'reckoning some stuff'. This means that a) you'd be crazy not to read at least a summary of what people before you have already thought on the matter, — Isaac
To me, academic economics and philosophy programs are the most egregious versions of elitist. — schopenhauer1
I was of the same opinion as Schopenhauer regarding academic philosophy, and thought that it would somehow hinder my ability to freely explore my own ideas. — Pantagruel
Added quote to my post for clarity. — Pantagruel
Not at all. I concurred with your estimation of academic philosophy at the time, with the ensuing results for myself. I didn't attribute any more to you than what you said. I don't think I implied it either. — Pantagruel
I think all branches of knowledge ultimately must inter-validate. It is up to 'practical thinkers' (who pursue something as an avocation) to keep academics grounded. And sometimes to introduce novelty. — Pantagruel
It's about being able to examine the world using one's own ideas and applying it using relevant methods at hand. Other people's thoughts should be a jumping off point, not an end to themselves when it comes to philosophy — schopenhauer1
The premise of this thread stinks of elitism and fallacy of authority. — schopenhauer1
With a little generosity, Isaac and others are just frustrated that they arent having higher quality conversations and they want the ability to police their own threads. — frank
You are at the level of existence and thought thinking of its own thinking. There is no right or wrong! Science has available evidence in repeated experiments and technology that comes from it. Not so in philosophy. There isn't even a defined methodology as in other social sciences (like the always striving-to-be-more-than economics department!). — schopenhauer1
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