If you want to look for some esoteric 'mumbo jumbo' definition of truth, that is your prerogative. I think that is just about as useful as digging a hole and filling it in again. If you want to cleverly rearranging words, why not do a crossword puzzle? — ovdtogt
Certain kinds of positive thinking in relation to physical skills can be useful even if we start using them when they are false. — Coben
Sometimes it is useful to dig a hole and fill it in again (for instance, let's say a crazy rich person pays people to do it - well, now there's some use in me doing it). Presumably by your lights that makes the hole, er, true? — Bartricks
Now, if a belief can be useful yet not true, then we know - or those of us who have powers of reason can know - that truth and usefulness denote different properties. Which is something we already knew, because it is directly self-evident. Deal. — Bartricks
A belief may be false, but can not been known to be false. Only a belief not known to be false can be useful. A belief has to be considered true to be useful. So truth and usefulness do not denote different properties. — ovdtogt
So truth and usefulness do not denote different properties. — ovdtogt
Holes can't be true
Digging can't be true
Sorry you'll have to explain that to me. — ovdtogt
A false belief can certainly be known to be false. A lot of people believe things that we can know to be false. — Bartricks
Only a belief that is not known to be false (at the time) can be useful. — ovdtogt
Dyslexia is a problem many people suffer from. Nothing to be ashamed of. — ovdtogt
And a clarification serves the same purpose as a justification. — ovdtogt
Now, if a belief can be useful yet not true, then we know - or those of us who have powers of reason can know - that truth and usefulness denote different properties — Bartricks
A belief that may be false can be known to be false. — Bartricks
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