But the idea is that mathematical knowledge was already there. Does this then mean that everything is already there, it only awaits our ability to see it; America was there before it was discovered, Einstein’s theory of relativity was there before he formulated it, viruses existed before we identified them. — Brett
Is belief the suspicion of something existing that can’t yet be proven? — Brett
One can invent an unlimited number of different economics — alcontali
This raises an interesting point for me. Is a Capitalist economy invented, or is it a natural evolution of existing ideas? — Brett
Therefore, it is merely a byproduct of rampant paganism. — alcontali
I can’t be sure how you’re using the word “paganism”. Do you mean it in its original sense, or in a perjirative form condemning modern times? — Brett
Of which period in history are you referring to? — Brett
I don't pretend to know what Socrates meant by that assertion, but I don't take it literally. Perhaps he was referring to the metaphor that man is a micro-cosmos, containing the essence of the whole world, including mathematics, within himself.Socrates infers that the knowledge we possess is already within us. — Brett
is Capitalism an invention — Brett
The State Planning Committee, commonly known as Gosplan (Russian: Госпла́н, pronounced [ɡɐsˈpɫan]),[1] was the agency responsible for central economic planning in the Soviet Union. Established in 1921 and remaining in existence until the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, Gosplan had as its main task the creation and administration of a series of five-year plans governing the economy of the USSR. — Wikipedia on the GOSPLAN
an economy with at the core a usury-infested fiat bankstering system — alcontali
The exercise only proved that the human brain works with an inherent logic : a mathematical logic, including basic arithmetic. If Socrates had asked for the answer to a calculus problem, do you think Meno would have had a "true opinion" about that kind of knowledge? Sages like Socrates often made bold general statements without qualification or limitation. They may be true metaphorically without necessarily being true in detail. Like Jesus' parables they are intended to convey a general impression, not to be taken literally or historically. Socrates was teaching by leading instead of by lecturing.I don’t think he does mean it as a metaphor. The exercise he carried out wasn’t a metaphor. — Brett
The second argument, known as the Theory of Recollection, asserts that learning is essentially an act of recollecting things we knew before we were born but then forgot. True knowledge, argues Socrates, is knowledge of the eternal and unchanging Forms that underlie perceptible reality. — SparkNotes: Plato
But my interest is whether our inventions, compared to our discoveries, are problematic. — Brett
Has Capitalism, for example, as an invention, been successful or problematic? — Brett
God has permitted trade but forbidden usury. — Quran, Al Baqarah 2:275
Yes, I personally also think that inventions are problematic while discoveries are commendable. — alcontali
I have a sneaking suspicion that you say discoveries are commendable because they are the work of God. And then it becomes a conversation circling the idea of God, which just kills everything. — Brett
Knowledge isnt something that can be discovered, it is something you have as the result discovering something. — DingoJones
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