I am my highest authority, judge and guide — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
So what if you're being hypnotized, drugged, manipulated, or in some other way duped? — Artemis
Do you have some reason to believe that this renders you unusual in some significant way? — Arne
I don't have anything against confidence borne of true knowledge but given that we all have blind spots I suggest you take a look at the Dunning-Kruger effect — TheMadFool
I just put this up that answers this notion of error or being duped nicely. I hope.
FMPOV, we are all always doing the best we can with whatever we have. Be it intelligence or other skill or ability.
We are all always striving for the best possible end. Right?
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I see my duty as to make my tribe better. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I suspect every sheeple would say the same. — Arne
Pantagruel — Pantagruel
The scope and scale of our abilities ultimately depends on our embracing and adopting external systems, which are rule-governed. — Pantagruel
So what if any of us are? We are duped and hope we learned our lesson — Gnostic Christian Bishop
That kinda puts a wrench in the whole "being the highest judge and authority" bit. — Artemis
Have we ever had a perfect ideology or leader to follow? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Are you suggesting that a highest judge and authority cannot make a mistake? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I'm suggesting that in circumstances when someone else is causing your behavior and or manipulating you, then you cannot be considered the highest authority in that moment. — Artemis
Sure you can if you are making the choice, wrong or not, to accept and make your own whatever is being sold to you. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
If you're being manipulated, lied to, hypnotized, drugged, etc. YOU are not making any choices on your own. — Artemis
It is still your choice, although it is being intentionally impaired.
It is not the others choice, it is only his suggestion, fortified by the products you mention. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
That makes no sense. — Artemis
Mine or yours?
Yours.
It is my threat, but you chose to live instead of die and have your hand give your cash.
It is never my choice as I cannot make your hand move. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
On a side note: since choosing death leaves you without cash too... I'm not sure what the "choice" in your example really revolves around. — Artemis
It was a hypothetical, goof. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
You make my case.
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
If I hold a gun to your head and threaten to shot you if you do not hand over your cash, whose choice is being exercised when you hand it over? Whose brain makes your hand move?
Mine or yours?
Yours.
It is my threat, but you chose to live instead of die and have your hand give your cash.
It is never my choice as I cannot make your hand move. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
My main point stands uncontested. — Artemis
I just want to say that Descartes may have approved of you since, in effect, he was sure of only one truth - his own indubitable existence. Surely then, you, just as he was of himself, must be your highest authority. — TheMadFool
Per Sartre, even under torture, the victim determines the exact moment at which he chooses to submit to the torture.... — Pantagruel
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