So you're going to act like time is a well-understood phenomena? It's been posited by no less than Albert Einstein that it's a fourth dimension, and that we live in some kind of mysterious block universe. — neonspectraltoast

I don't care where my consciousness exists as long as it is mine and somehow connected to me, or vice versa. Einstein 4th dimension is space time. No?

You're right, consciousness exists in spacetime. That's kind of my whole point. If time isn't strictly linear, and consciousness cannot exist independently of it, then you have to explain what that means for consciousness. — neonspectraltoast

Time is linear, from past and now to the future now will create. All that means for our consciousness is that we follow the same time our minds perceive.

If you have seen time being anything but linear and in the one direction only. If that is not what you see, explain.

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DL

The theory is that all times coexist simultaneously and our perception of linear time is an illusion.

And I believe this is true, because I've seen evidence.

And I believe this is true, because I've seen evidence. — neonspectraltoast

Sadly though such experience is unprovable to others, so its not actually something that is helpful philosophically.

Don't be so sure of that.

And it's still helpful. What wouldn't be helpful is to just go along with everyone else and act like there's no such thing.

My conclusion is, that the best world is any world. — Rucan

Aristotle's Golden Mean. Buddha's Middle Path

he theory is that all times coexist simultaneously and our perception of linear time is an illusion. — neonspectraltoast

That theory is foolish given entropy and the anthropic principle.

Break your illusion by counting to 2.

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DL

And I believe this is true, because I've seen evidence. — neonspectraltoast

Show it.

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DL

Entropy and the anthropic principle have nothing to do with it.

Regards.

Entropy and the anthropic principle have nothing to do with it. — neonspectraltoast

They refute you, but if you cannot see that, this is pointless. If you are going to deny science -----

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DL

No, they don't. And it isn't me. It's a working theory of time, which is unexplained, and if you can't explain, haven't explained consciousness.

Sorry, "time is linear" isn't the end-all be-all of discussions about the nature of time.

Sorry, "time is linear" isn't the end-all be-all of discussions about the nature of time. — neonspectraltoast

True. It is just a truth.

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DL

If that's what you need to believe, and your entire philosophy rests upon, be my guest. You understand the true nature of time and consciousness. Right. Meanwhile I and the rest of the scientific and philosophical community will continue to try and study it.

If that's what you need to believe, and your entire philosophy rests upon, be my guest. You understand the true nature of time and consciousness. Right. Meanwhile I and the rest of the scientific and philosophical community will continue to try and study it. — neonspectraltoast

I have no need to believe anything. I do believe what I think is true based on the facts I have accepted as true.

Nowhere have I said that I understand all there is to know of time and consciousness.

If all you are going to do is distort my beliefs, then ----- you know what to do, liar.

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DL

I have no idea what to do.

I have no idea what to do. — neonspectraltoast

I love this old gal. Follow her advice.

I say it PARTLY in jest, given your distortion of my views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8kOHPnqXG0

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DL

I'm not clicking that.

So you realize you neither know what time or, therefore, consciousness are. Good.

Not what I said. Fuck off a hole.

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DL

How does one fuck off a hole?

What you are speaking of is not heaven. You contradict yourself by stating that heaven is unlimited and perceivable at any point of time and is infinite and now you say that what you are experiencing is heaven? No that is not the case. The universe is unfortunately limited. It may be huge but it is limited. The universe will end one fine day after billions or trillions of years due to loss of energy. It may take a long time but it will take place. Now how can that be heaven? If heaven has to be perceived at all times with the stated condition that it must be infinite, then it must be something beyond our current perception. If it is truly infinite, there exists no matter or to be specific, it is a whole bundle of infinite "consciousness" which can never be perceived or understood perfectly because it has to be infinite in all aspects for it to be true infinity. It is unfathomable infinite consciousness in which we perceive how much we intend to perceive and nothing beyond