The post-truth world is the result of the ascendancy of the bullshitter, who is contrasted with the liar in that while the liar knows what is true and what is false, and knowingly speaks falsehoods, the bullshitter does not know or care for truth.
No they don't sound like lies to most people at all (have you seen Trump's crowds?!). This is again a big big mistake. Once again, you believe the fake polls - like you did during the election. What was I saying back then? Trump will win. I said it from the very beginning in fact. And everyone laughed at me. You said "No no, the polls, the polls" - the polls don't represent the people anymore. The media doesn't represent the people. The media is just the liberal elite who tries to create a fake picture of the world in their own image.He creates all these great truths but they sound like lies to most people. — Cavacava
No they don't sound like lies to most people at all (have you seen Trump's crowds?!). — Agustino
Once again, you believe the fake polls
What was I saying back then? Trump will win. I said it from the very beginning in fact. And everyone laughed at me. You said "No no, the polls, the polls" - the polls don't represent the people anymore.
No it totally isn't. I can see you know little about politics, but there's no better suggestion of a leader's effectiveness than his ability to generate crowds and get people out. It's a well-known fact that Trump's crowds were larger than Hillary's! Some of the liberal people here in fact used to come on the forums and be like "uhh I don't get it, why are they all going there to chant TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP". The fact Trump is still capable to generate very large crowds is actually in truth a much much more important sign than your silly polls.I was being facetious. I was trying to point out how ridiculous your comment was. Trying to suggest that Cavacava is wrong in saying that most people believe Trump to be lying because a few thousand people show up to his rallies? That's a non sequitur. — Michael
No it totally isn't. I can see you know little about politics, but there's no better suggestion of a leader's effectiveness than his ability to generate crowds and get people out. It's a well-known fact that Trump's crowds were larger than Hillary's! Some of the liberal people here in fact used to come on the forums and be like "uhh I don't get it, why are they all going there to chant TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP". The fact Trump is still capable to generate very large crowds is actually in truth a much much more important sign than your silly polls — Agustino
The fact Trump is still capable to generate very large crowds is actually in truth a much much more important sign than your silly polls
Greater numbers of Americans believe Trump ought to be impeached, than believe he's doing a good job. — Wayfarer
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What difference would 'polls' make? This is the post-truth thread, right? Whatever 'poll' one refers to, a Trump troll will come along and say 'fake news'. So I'm not going to go to the bother. Take it or leave it. — Wayfarer
Well, if not through polls, how else would you be able to claim what you did? You made the claim, I'm just curious how you came to posit its truth. — Buxtebuddha
It was a poll, in July - http://www.newsweek.com/support-donald-trumps-impeachment-higher-latest-approval-rating-631212 — Wayfarer
I do believe he will be impeached. I think the Republicans will move against him. — Wayfarer
Same poll looks like. 1500 people is a minuscule tally. — Buxtebuddha
I have a feeling you also believed that Donald Trump would never get elected, either :\ — Buxtebuddha
“Our movement is a movement built on love. It’s love for fellow citizens,” said Trump. He went on: “We are all on the same team. We are all Americans.” Then Trump spent most of the speech attacking his teammates. Twelve times, he called the media “dishonest,” “crooked,” or “sick.” “They’re bad people,” he concluded. “And I really think they don’t like our country.” He derided “all of the Democrats in Congress” (“They obstruct, that’s all they do”), Arizona Republican Sen. Jeff Flake (“Nobody knows who the hell he is”), TV pundits (“lightweights … that nobody ever heard of”), CNN (“pathetic”), and executives who have withdrawn from White House business councils to protest Trump’s remarks about Charlottesville, Virginia (“I remember the ones that did”). In a gesture that echoed his mockery of a disabled reporter, the president lowered a hand to ridicule the shortness of “little George Stephanopoulos.”
Trump talked about unity, selflessness, racial healing, and the rule of law. Then he made clear that he doesn’t believe in any of these things.
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rump talked about serving others. “Washington is full of people who are only looking out for themselves,” he declared. “But I don’t come to Washington for me.” Then he boasted of how many bills he had signed, claiming—without even mentioning what the bills were about—that no president had done as much as he has. He bragged about his post-Charlottesville statements (“The words were perfect”), his speech Monday night on Afghanistan (it “got great reviews”), his coinage of “extreme vetting” (“I came up with that term”), and businessmen who, according to Trump, have been asking him for lunch dates. Trump said of his critics: “I went to better schools than they did. I was a better student than they were. I live in a bigger, more beautiful apartment. And I live in the White House, too.” 1
What I said! Whatever poll you quote, someone will say 'fake news'. So you were baiting me. — Wayfarer
Damn right, I overestimated the intelligence of the US electorate. — Wayfarer
you're overestimating again by thinking Trump will be impeached. — Buxtebuddha
Time will tell. Not much time, we can only hope. — Wayfarer
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