Fuck the interests of the people! Survival is above the interests of the people - what use if the interests of the people are satisfied and in 20 years America disappears off the face of the Earth? China is already a larger economy than the US. In 20 years, if the current rates continue, China will be TWICE as big as the US. You can calculate this yourself. The rise of Islamic terrorism, slow economic growth, ever increasing debt, a population which loves hedonistically indulging itself and has less and less concern about virtue and the harshness of reality, - all these problems will cripple America very soon if not addressedIs a New York billionaire going to save the interests of the people? — Marchesk
America's global hegemony.What greatness was destroyed? — Marchesk
For the survival of the United States of America and their continued hegemonic status.Last hope for what? — Marchesk
Trump is pragmatic. He represents the hard virtues, such as discipline, pragmatism, getting the job done, facing reality, taking tough decisions, courage, etc. much better than Clinton :-! I actually laugh when I compare Trump to Clinton on these criteria. He will not get Americans to be virtuous, but he may get them to stop being hedonistic by getting them to work. Trump is stupid in spiritual matters, but not in worldly matters.What makes you think Trump is any better? — Marchesk
My country is the first to lose if Russia's influence grows. Don't play dumb Wayfarer. That doesn't mean that I fail to see that Trump is good for America. Trump isn't good for me and Eastern Europe - but does America give a shit about Eastern Europe? Should America give a shit about Eastern Europe? No America should give a shit about itself. You know what Eastern Europe is for America? A pawn on the chess board of global politics.There are many 'pro-Russia' trolls operative on the internet, you never know where they might turn up, although they're not that hard to spot. — Wayfarer
China is already a larger economy than the US. In 20 years, if the current rates continue, China will be TWICE as big as the US. — Agustino
America's global hegemony. — Agustino
No. It's China having outsmarted the stupid US and the stupid Russia. China - everyone depends on them, no economy can do without China. They're becoming indispensable, and they're very quiet about it, they don't make a big noise. Have you even heard that China is now the world's biggest economy? Many people haven't. China will become a global hegemony very soon if things don't change drastically. Trust me, I've studied Chinese history for a very long time, these people are the biggest snakes out there. The political manipulations that exist in China's history dwarf anything in the West - their strategic mind is phenomenal. They hide great ambition under a mask of humility. China's people are also virtuous, keenly aware of the dangers and difficulties of life, willing to bear hard labour and hard lives with little satisfaction. When will you see Americans doing that? >:O >:OWhat do you expect? They have 5 times as many people, and we found it in our economic interest to trade with them. Expect India to follow suit, and Africa after that (granted, it's a continent not a nation). That's globalism for you, and that's countries realizing they need to catch up and modernize. — Marchesk
No it existed because of staying quietly out of the war, only to join at the end - in BOTH World Wars, and then dictate the terms after the war. It also existed because of the long-time reliance on slavery which enabled production at virtually no material cost.That existed due to the outcome of WW2, and it led to a cold war with thousands of nukes hanging over our heads. But the rest of the world was going to catch up. — Marchesk
The concept of post-truth has been in existence for the past decade, but Oxford Dictionaries has seen a spike in frequency this year in the context of the EU referendum in the United Kingdom and the presidential election in the United States. It has also become associated with a particular noun, in the phrase post-truth politics.
It also existed because of the long-time reliance on slavery which enabled production at virtually no material cost. — Agustino
There are hidden costs associated with this, including large future costs.Isn't that what the migrant workers are for? Get paid slave wages way below minimum requirements and no benefits? — Marchesk
And the US is bearing the costs for it today.The North in the US was doing quite well industrially without slave labor leading up to the Civil War. The South was more agrarian, and being the virtuous souls that they were, decided to have other human beings do the work for them. — Marchesk
Actually, Landru is paradoxically opposed to reason-skeptical conservatism, and not so much opposed to my type of conservatism. I think Landru's focus was more economical than otherwise, and a fight against conservatism in-so-far as it is oppressive (anti-reason).Landru is more a progressive than a liberal. — TheWillowOfDarkness
Well according to my position a person is of infinite value and thus they cannot be respected without full devotion to them. That would be equivalent to not recognising their full value as a person - their deserving status as an end-in-itself.respect in sex(just not necessarily with one person) — TheWillowOfDarkness
I don't think vengeance, if by this you mean reprisal outside the law is just. If someone kills my wife, and because they're powerful the police does nothing to them, and I take it upon myself to annihilate both them and their entire family, then I am taking revenge and that is not just, but neither is what happened to me just. Revenge is just a (wrong) reaction to injustice.It the obsessions of vengemce — TheWillowOfDarkness
It's beyond laughter at this point. The Joker has the Button. — Wayfarer
Should America give a shit about Eastern Europe? No America should give a shit about itself. You know what Eastern Europe is for America? A pawn on the chess board of global politics. — Agustino
KELLYANNE CONWAY: Don't be so overly dramatic about it, Chuck. What-- You're saying it's a falsehood. And they're giving Sean Spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts to that. But the point remains--
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“Alternative facts are not facts. They are falsehoods.” — Chuck Todd in his interview with Kellyanne Conway, Trump's top spokesperson
“31,487 American scientists have signed this petition, including 9,029 with PhDs stating there is no evidence that man-made carbon dioxide emissions will cause climate change.
The researchers found that the most effective way to inoculate someone to potential misinformation was to take a two-pronged 'vaccination' approach:
First, the general inoculation consisted of a warning: "Some politically-motivated groups use misleading tactics to try and convince the public that there is a lot of disagreement among scientists."
Second, another detailed inoculation picked apart the Oregon petition based on specifics. For example, by highlighting that many of the supposed signatories are fraudulent, such as Charles Darwin and members of the Spice Girls. Also pointing out that less than 1 percent of signatories actually had backgrounds in climate science.
Yes pawns are indeed important, however, clinging to pawns may very well lead to defeat. The paradox of strategy is that any path can lead to defeat. America has bigger concerns than Eastern Europe. If Eastern Europe can be gambled for Syria and exterminating ISIS, America hasn't lost much, but has gained quite a bit.That's bad chess strategy right there. Pawns are important, pawns are valuable, and the player who sacrifices them for no or little advantage will quickly lose. — unenlightened
a.. but the notion that Trump won because of post-truth doesn't square with my experience with the people who voted for him. None of them were interested in superficial info coming from either campaign. They were looking deeper and their distrust of establishment bullshit was just a lot stronger than their distrust of Trump's. IOW, they knew Trump was fishy. They just couldn't stomach the alternative. — Mongrel
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