• Benj96
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    Consider the following hypothetical situation;

    There is a person who has the unique ability of being able to convincingly and rationally argue their viewpoints, beliefs and perspectives to such a degree that no one they encounter can justifiably deny or oppose said beliefs. The ability exists irrespective of actual truth or fact, that is to say the person can argue a lie or untruth as incontrovertible fact and thus convince people to adopt their views /perspectives with relative ease.

    They are in essence an omnipotent philosopher. What do you suggest would happen if such a person existed? What would come of the limitless freedom and power of conviction?

    Would they have a natural tendency to become a tyrant taking the law and way the world works into their own hands? Would this person set a self serving agenda to reach solely their own goals and ambitions indulging in pleasure and excess? Would this person lose the capacity to empathise, to gain insight or even to learn if all and any mistakes can be rectified by mere desire to insist on their validity?

    Or would the person take it upon themselves to inquire? To listen and analyze with perfect logic, to fill in the gaps in human understanding and pursue some form of idealogical standard for all? One would imagine such an ability has equal power to generate utopian peace, paradise and prosperity as it does to invoke a world of hell, ignorance and manipulation.

    What would become of the meaning of paradise and dystopia, or of free will, when you can be persuaded that your suffering and inequality is deserved and necessary, or on the contrary that your life does have value and is worthy and held in high esteem - because you have been told so.

    Fundamentally in a world where one person sets the tone, is this world good, bad or would it even matter , would all meaning be lost?
  • unenlightened
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    no one they encounter can justifiably deny or oppose said beliefsBenj96

    It is alas the case that folks can and do unjustifiably oppose anything and everything that is inconvenient to them. (You cannot justifiably oppose this sad fact). This means that the rationality and presumable honesty and truthfulness that you propose does not amount to a super-power that puts one in charge of everyone. They might have some influence; they might make the world a little bit better, but mostly they will be ignored or persecuted. See Socrates, see Jesus, etc.
  • magritte
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    The ability exists irrespective of actual truth or fact, that is to say the person can argue a lie or untruth as incontrovertible fact and thus convince people to adopt their views /perspectives with relative ease.Benj96

    Although we live in a physical world that is chaotic, that is a combination of lawful, random, and willful events, we have a genetic psychological imperative to imagine and then to believe that we are in fact living in an orderly, predictable world. The womb, so to speak. Towards this goal we imagine our social leaders to be godlike superior beings, or at least loco parentis, to see and foresee the good for us. We are thus natural marks for brazen loud gurus to play a confidence game on us, to tell us how things really are. Today, we hear jarring examples of its use in each morning's news.
  • Philosophim
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    The ability exists irrespective of actual truth or fact, that is to say the person can argue a lie or untruth as incontrovertible fact and thus convince people to adopt their views /perspectives with relative ease.Benj96

    This argument is basically mind control. Since the facts don't matter at all, its about someone having absolute power over other people. What would they do? Depends on the person of course. Some would use the power for evil, others would use it for the power of awesome.

    Would other's meaning be lost? Well, not the meaning of the person controlling everything. People would lose their agency, independence, and free will. Humanity would essentially turn into a hive mind. I believe most people would be repulsed at the idea, even if they know they would be completely happy, satisfied, and have a new meaning in serving "the great one", if they gave their agency up.

    I believe we generally are against this because one person cannot be everything. Humanities strength comes from the variation within the species. It allows us to adapt and change to new circumstances. One person cannot adapt and be good at everything.
  • TheMadFool
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    omnipotent philosopherBenj96

    How about trying to answer your question by contrasting the omnipotent philosopher with an omnipotent non-philisopher?
  • Octopus Knight
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    Correction: They are in essence an omnipotent sophist. Or at least that is the word that Plato would have used here. It is the sophist who can make the good appear bad and the bad appear good.

    Question: Is this omnipotent sophist able to discern the good from the bad and the true from the false or is this person able to convince themselves as easily as they do the others regardless of truth or fact?

    Question: If this person was able to discern the good and the true would they still be tempted to lie to others?
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