because I work from an unshakable conclusion that ALL reasoning consists entirely of thought and belief and all thought and belief is existentially dependent upon conscious experience. That could be put a bit stronger:All conscious experience is thought and/or belief.
We can know some things are prior to others. We can know some things consist of others. Etc. Seeking and acquiring some knowledge is a useful endeavor. We need not know everything in order to know some things. — creativesoul
Let's see what happens when we 'plug in' something a bit more interesting/compelling.. — creativesoul
In what way is it it more "anthropomorphic," then something like the inverse square law, Maxwell's equations, etc.? — Count Timothy von Icarus
Hegel doesn't deny time or the fact that we aren't actually starting from nothing. — Count Timothy von Icarus
1. Temporal ordering and causation. Is the dependence relation you're interested one of logical necessity or one of (physical?) causation? Or maybe the two are two sides of the same coin? I could see the argument that our logical sense emerges from the causal, as a form of abstraction that evolution equipped us with, but you can also see arguments for logic being more essential and "at work," in causation. — Count Timothy von Icarus
2. That "elemental" parts are, in ways, more fundemental that wholes. The elemental parts must exist before the wholes, no? — Count Timothy von Icarus
But might we consider that the whole sometimes seems to precede the distinction of parts. E.g., we needed the universal process, the fields in which "part(icles) subsist" before we can have the elemental parts? Or, the universal relation through which "mass" emerges must pre-exist "massive particles," as the latter are necessarily defined in terms of the former. — Count Timothy von Icarus
Which makes me ask, is this for only the universal case, or the particulars as well? You can't have an individual apple pie without first having apples, but it seems possible to have war prior to fighting. Maybe this says something about the essence of war. — Count Timothy von Icarus
Let's see what happens when we 'plug in' something a bit more interesting/compelling..
— creativesoul
Gratitude to parents.
Gratitude to teachers.
Bearing in mind that it is impossible to be "one's own person" and not need anyone. — baker
Gratitude to parents.
Gratitude to teachers.
Bearing in mind that it is impossible to be "one's own person" and not need anyone. — baker
Could you plug it in? I'm not sure what to do with that! — creativesoul
Gratitude to parents.
Gratitude to teachers.
Bearing in mind that it is impossible to be "one's own person" and not need anyone.
— baker
Could you plug it in? I'm not sure what to do with that! :smile: — creativesoul
It's a popular sentiment that children don't owe their parents anything, e.g. — baker
Yet bearing in mind the premises in your OP, it's clear that one couldn't be where one is today were it not for one's parents, and that some akcnowledgement of this debt is in order.
Similar for one's teachers. — baker
Another popular sentiment is to think of oneself as independent, as not having needed anyone in order to succeed, and taking pride in this. Similarly as above with parents and teachers, it's clear that such is not possible, and that a million things need to come together in order for a person to succeed, a million things over which the person has no control. — baker
Speculative philosophy can be done in a dark room full of vacuum for sure
— Corvus
The basis upon which the speculation happens cannot happen in a vacuum. — creativesoul
It would be a conceptual vacuum of course. — Corvus
I'm objecting to the very notion. Speculative philosophy requires common language. One cannot acquire common language without conceptions. — creativesoul
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