Can he be the cause of her suicide? — Matei
Can anything but weakness be the cause of suicide? — Matei
Can he be the cause of her suicide? Wouldn't her own weakness be the reason? Wasn't he an obstacle which she failed to overcome? — Matei
but is he morally responsible for her suicide? — Matei
is he morally responsible — Matei
That question is subject to debate, depending on various personal moralities. And that's what a philosophical forum is for.but is he morally responsible for her suicide? — Matei
But, I will note, that in a court of law, the husband could be declared a "contributing cause" to the wife's death. Therefore, culpable to some extent, but enough to be found legally guilty of murder. — Gnomon
And he should feel guilty, and remorseful. — Gnomon
the husband isn't being forced to beat his wife by anyone — Judaka
held morally accountable for either outcome. — Judaka
could've been stronger and more resilient and not take her own life but that wasn't the case. — Judaka
But the wife was not forced to kill herself either. And yes, he is morally responsible for beating her, bringing her pain, but can he be morally responsible for her actions? — Matei
Does that really sound right? — Matei
My comment omitted an important qualifier. It should have said "but not enough to be found legally guilty". So yes, legal responsibility requires objective evidence, and a jury of peers. Moral responsibility is a personal subjective judgment, and others may not agree with that opinion. That's why social accountability requires multiple attestations to the "crime". Personal accountability may be limited to a feeling of guilt, in those so inclined. There may be several contributing causes for suicide, such as depression. But the abusive husband would be the best judge of his own contribution. :smile:Indeed, but isn't there a difference between penal responsability and moral responsability? He can, of course, be seen as a cause of he death, but that would make him only causal responsable. — Matei
, I can answer your question with yes, no, maybe, and everything in between and on the sides, A question for which all possible answers are correct is not much of a question.
The husband has obviously done immoral and unvirtuous things and he is responsible for those indeed, but is he morally responsible for her suicide? — Matei
Agreed, for at the least that would make the one asking responsible for any answer. But the point was that we can and should judge the question on the basis of its meaning, and especially if it has any particular meaning. For that the one asking is responsible. And further, the one answering a question he has not understood, is to that degree part of the problem.We should not judge the quality of the question based solely on the answers it produces. — kudos
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