• Rafaella Leon
    59
    Socialism has killed over 100 million dissidents and spread terror, misery, and famine over one quarter of the Earth. All of the earthquakes, hurricanes, epidemics, tyrannies, and wars of the last four centuries combined have not produced such devastating effects. That is a sheer and simple fact, accessible to anyone who can look into The Black Book of Communism and do some elementary calculations. Since, however, what determines our beliefs are not facts but rather interpretations, the devout socialist always has recourse to the subterfuge of explaining away that formidable succession of calamities as the effect of fortuitous events independent from the essence of socialist doctrines, which could then maintain, immune to all the misery of its accomplishments, the beauty and dignity of a superior ideal.

    To what extent is this claim intellectually respectable and morally acceptable?

    The socialist ideal is, in essence, the diminishment or elimination of differences in economic power by means of political power. But no one can effectively arbitrate the differences between the more powerful and the less powerful who is not himself more powerful than both: socialism therefore must gather a power sufficient not only to impose itself on the poor, but also to successfully face the whole of the rich. Thus it cannot level the differences in economic power without producing even deeper differences in level of political power. Moreover, given that the structure of political power cannot float in thin air, but rather that it costs a lot of money, it is not conceivable that the political power might subjugate economic power without absorbing it into itself, taking the riches from the rich and managing it directly. Hence under socialism, precisely contrary to what happens in capitalism, there is no difference between political power and control over wealth: the higher an individual and a group’s position in the political hierarchy, the larger the wealth at their utter and immediate disposal. There shall be no class richer than that of the rulers. Then will the economic differences not only have necessarily increased, but rather, after being consolidated in the unified political and economic powers, they will have become impossibly unsurmountable, except by the complete destruction of the socialist system. And even destruction will not solve the problem, because, there existing no wealthy class outside of the nomenklatura, they will keep the economic power in their hands, merely swapping their means of legal legitimacy and now calling themselves the bourgeoisie. The socialist experience, when it is not crystallized in a bureaucratic oligarchy, dissolves into wild capitalism. Tertium non datur. Socialism thus consists in the promise of obtaining a certain result by those means which necessarily produce the inverse result.

    One needs only understand this to immediately realize the emergence of a bureaucratic elite endowed with tyrannical political power and opulent riches is no accident, but rather the logical and inevitable consequence of the very principle of the socialist idea. This line of reasoning is accessible to any person with average intelligence, but given a certain propensity of weaker minds towards believing rather in desires than in reason, one could yet forgive those poor creatures who give into the temptation of “taking a gamble” on the lottery of reality, betting on chance against logical necessity. Even if that is incredibly sleazy, still it is human. It is humanlike stupidity to insist on learning from one’s own experience when we have been gifted with logical reasoning, precisely so we could reduce the amount of experience needed for learning.

    What is not human at all is rejecting at one and the same time the lesson from logics that shows us the contradictions of a project and the lesson from experience which, so it could rediscover what logic had already taught it, caused the deaths of 100 million people. No intellectually sane human being has the right to cling so obstinately to an idea so as to demand that humanity sacrifice, on the altar of its promises, not only its rational intelligence, but its very instinct of survival. Such incapacity or refusal to learn denounces, in the mind of the socialist, the voluntary and perverse debasement of intelligence to a subhuman level, the conscious abdication of that basic capacity for discerning which is the very condition of humanness in the human being. Being a socialist means refusing out of pride to take up the responsibilities of a human consciousness.
  • jgill
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    Wow. Is Denmark that bad? :scream:
  • Manuel
    4.2k
    What is this Atlas Shrugged 2?
  • Kenosha Kid
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    Such incapacity or refusal to learn denounces, in the mind of the socialist, the voluntary and perverse debasement of intelligence to a subhuman level, the conscious abdication of that basic capacity for discerning which is the very condition of humanness in the human being. Being a socialist means refusing out of pride to take up the responsibilities of a human consciousness.Rafaella Leon

    I like skipping to the end to see how up becomes down. TL;DR version: socialists don't count as humans cuz they're dumb, and true humanity is thinking things like that.
  • Gus Lamarch
    924
    Poor girl. No one was educated enough to warn her that criticizing communism and all its variations on this forum is the equivalent of the killing of Jesus. Well then, I'll do it:

    "Don't criticize left-wing ideologies. The forum's" inteligentia" doesn't like it when their egos are diminished."
  • ssu
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    Socialism has killed over 100 million dissidents and spread terror, misery, and famine over one quarter of the Earth. All of the earthquakes, hurricanes, epidemics, tyrannies, and wars of the last four centuries combined have not produced such devastating effects.Rafaella Leon

    Some have estimated, that in wars of the 20th Century about 108 to 150 million people were killed, with WW2 being the worst (with perhaps 70 million or so dead). Yet I agree that Stéphane Courtois, Andrzej Paczkowski and Nicolas Werth are totally at the correct range of putting such a high number on deaths related to communism.

    Yet it's better to talk about simply about communism, the violent totalitarian side of socialism. That might be history now, but socialism isn't. Why? The fall of the Soviet Union and it's satellite states wasn't such a blow that as was given to fascism and national socialism at the end of WW2, so the ideology didn't become a banned one. There were no American tanks on the Red Square when the Soviet Union fell and the present Russian leader sees the collapse of the Soviet Union as the “greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century”. Obviously any kind of similar re-thinking of ideologies didn't happen in Post-Soviet Russia as happened in (West)Germany after WW2.

    Then some socialists condemned Marxism-Leninism of the Soviet Union, even if those were a far smaller group as now people say. And lastly, not all socialism isn't Marxism. Western social democracy, which could generally be defined as socialism, is different from the totalitarian communists. And as they, the social democrats, have been in fact for ages the vehement enemies with communists (if one looks at the real history), they don't see themselves related to Soviet communism or maoism. To assume that social democrats are just some light-version of communists would be similar as to think that a libertarian and an authoritarian extreme right-winger are from the same mold.

    All above makes it so that communism isn't treated as fascism or national socialism, even if Marxism-Leninism should be put in a similar way to the dustbin of history. That's just the World we live in.
  • Judaka
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    Communism and socialism are not interchangeable terms but it seems like you are using them as though they were. Under socialism or capitalism, the government could be totalitarian or a modern democracy but under communism, there can only be a totalitarian government. Communism is a detailed ideology, it entails far more than just socialism, which shouldn't really receive the blame for what happened with communism.
  • Pfhorrest
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    Socialism has killed over 100 million dissidentsRafaella Leon

    omg! Do the police have any leads on finding him? This guy needs to be locked up for mass murder!

    Weird name, too. Is he Italian? I think I’ve seen some Italians with “issimo” in their names.
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