My guess is that he would have concluded, as Einstein & Penrose have, that QM is an incomplete physical theory (à la "Schrödinger's Cat") because it is incompatible with deterministic, local reality (re: EPR paradox, Bell's Theorem) because Spinoza is a strict determinist and realist.I wonder what Spinoza, and many of us philosophers would have made of quantum physics. — Jack Cummins
One benefits by dispensing with 'substance dualism' and superstitious connotations of the (non-explanatory) 'supernatural'. The primary disadvantage of a 'Godless' philosophy is that one must struggle with – to overcome – despair / nihilism / scientism. Philosophical naturalists, like classical atomists and Spinozists for instance, rationally avoid these disadvantages.One question may be what are the benefits and disadvantages of throwing the idea of 'God' aside in philosophy?
Why "consider" this when "God's truth" about "quantum physics" is not revealed in ANY of thousands extant sacred texts? :eyes:What we want is the truth; seeing quantum physics as God's truth is something we need to consider. — Athena
How is the "distance" between me and the cup closed so my thoughts about the cup are really about that over there called a cup? — Constance
Many religious believers speak of faith. I am uncertain of the basis of faith as opposed to rational understanding and its relationship to the everyday existential aspects of faith, and fear, in human life. — Jack Cummins
What we want is the truth; seeing quantum physics asGod'struth is something we need to consider. — Athena
Language may not capture the full nature of the divine or numinous experience. The silence of meditation experiences may capture this, as does those who speak of mystical experiences. Of course, understanding in the rational sense is important, but it is limited. This is with or without the notion of God. The emphasis on the limits of language and silence were spoken of by Wittgenstein. He did not speak of God and it may be that the idea of God symbolises that which lies beyond the realm of knowledge. — Jack Cummins
Quantum Field Theory is by far the most successful truth in the history of science, its scientific model very well showing what goes on.
The quantum 'vacuum' has a base zero-point energy that is never zero and a base zero-point motion that is never zero. Philosophically, we would also conclude that Nothing and Stillness wouldn't have prayer of being so. — PoeticUniverse
Why "consider" this when "God's truth" about "quantum physics" is not revealed in ANY of thousands extant sacred texts? :eyes: — 180 Proof
I am dumbfounded by the religious folks clinging to their mythology despite how much our understanding of reality has changed. — Athena
Yet physically, an optical disk is very different from paper which is very different from a sound wave, which is very different from sound waves. The physical substrate does not seem to matter much. It is the information (form) that matters, and arguably this is "immaterial" in a number of senses. — Count Timothy von Icarus
You seem to be suggesting that our memories could be copied to another form and re-attached to our souls after death.
Sure, this is logically possible, but it's an ad hoc hypothesis that lacks supporting evidence. If this is something that occurs, I wonder why the deity bothers at all with brain-storage of memories, and why she fails to help out dementia patients with access to this resource.
Are you familiar with any of the physicists who suggest that information is ontologically basic and that matter and energy emerge from it? — Count Timothy von Icarus
That said, some semioticians advocate for pansemiosis, and it really depends on how attenuated you are prepared to allow the concept of 'interpretant' (not to mention 'mind') to become. — Janus
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