• jorndoe
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    There are some coincidences here and there, but perhaps nothing illegit.

    The Kremlin backs Orbán (Hungary)
    Orbán (Hungary) backs The Heritage Foundation
    The Heritage Foundation pushes Project 2025
    • The Trump administration and Project 2025 overlap

    Both Trump/Vance and Orbán periodically whine and complain about Europe / the EU, for example. (As well as Putin.) While critique is welcome, crap has been seen going beyond that. Is there a momentum of sorts towards alignment of sorts (or attempted anyway)?


    Much more importantly, what's your take, anything to see here? (Could be faces in the clouds.)
  • Wayfarer
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    An important report from CAP, a democratic-leaning think tank, on Trump’s First 100 Days. Table of Contents:

    • Trump’s game plan for establishing an imperial presidency
    • Trump’s steps to achieving an imperial presidency
    • Weaponizing the Department of Justice for political purposes
    • Ending the independence of independent agencies
    • Replacing expert civil servants with political loyalists
    • Circumventing Congress’ power to decide how to spend federal funds via impoundment
    • Weakening the independent media and news reporting
    • Misusing the Insurrection Act against Americans to stifle dissent
    • Neutralizing the Senate’s role of confirming executive branch nominees
    • Attacking the rule of law
    • Threatening elections and serving a third term
    • Launching government attacks on civil society and perceived enemies

    So we're seeing the march of the United States into an authoritarian dictatorship, day by day.

    Read on for the details.
  • Christoffer
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    And per tradition, I’ll ask, what’s the people of the US doing about it?

    We can’t blame narcissistic psychopaths for their attempt at seizing power, but we can criticize the people for not removing such people from positions of corrupt power.

    People saying that this isn’t possible are essentially enablers of these people to wield their power without consequences.

    For instance, the troops deployed in LA was judged to be illegal. If a presidential order and actions on those orders are illegal, then US Marshalls should arrest Trump. Simple as that really. That’s how non corrupt governments handle people who abuse power.

    Yet, since that’s not happening, then the people are responsible for upholding the laws of the nation. Maybe the people should remove him from power by force then? Some would argue that this would be similar to Jan 6, but it’s not, since it’s based on the fact that Trump has acted illegally against the constitution and that the systems of government are unable to uphold that constitution. In that case, there’s no other choice for people than getting their hands dirty and out all the people involved with this corrupt takeover and abuse of power.

    A democratic leader who acts illegally has revoked their contract with the people of that democracy. That person should be taken down by force if necessary. How else would the US survive as a democracy than to protect itself from those who want to destroy democratic systems?

    There’s a point when these people can’t hide behind the fact they were elected democratically. Almost all dictators were ”voted” for democratically. Would people stand in the middle of Nazi Germany’s peak and honestly defend Hitler for being democratically elected after he seized power and created an authoritarian regime? I don’t think so.
  • Relativist
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    If a presidential order and actions on those orders are illegal, then US Marshalls should arrest Trump. Simple as that really.Christoffer
    No, it's not. Trump is immune. Even before SCOTUS established this (and before they became corrupted), the DOJ Office of Legal Counsel had determined that a sitting President cannot be indicted. So the only way Trump can be held accountable is if he were impeached and removed from office.
    The House of Representatives is controlled by Trumpists. They publicly rationalize everything he does. So although a judge determined Trump's action was illegal, Trumpist Congressmen say the judge got it wrong. It will be appealed, and they will continue to say the courts got it wrong unless and until SCOTUS affirms it.
  • jorndoe
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    That was 7 years ago:

    How everything became the culture war
    Michael Grunwald · POLITICO · Nov 3, 2018

    Much of the article aged fairly well.

    , how far does the immunity go?
    All the way until impeachment + conviction by Congress?

    Trump's "Fifth Avenue" sequel
    — Axios · Jan 9, 2024

    Possible Exxon business for lifting of sanctions (which apparently matter to Putin):

    Exclusive: US and Russian officials discussed energy deals alongside latest Ukraine peace talks
    — Reuters · Aug 26, 2025

    Does Sullivan's accusation hold up?

    Trump threw away America’s relationship with India just to PROTECT his family’s business interests with Pakistan — a move he says makes US allies like Japan & Germany wonder if they can TRUST Washington at all.
    — MeidasTouch via Megh Updates · Sep 2, 2025 · 1m:32s
    Ex-US NSA Jake Sullivan Accuses Trump Of Sacrificing India Ties For Family's Business With Pakistan
    — CNN-News18 · Sep 2, 2025 · 5m:47s

    If this...stuff is true, then...corruption of sorts, though I doubt the Trumpets care.
  • Relativist
    3.2k
    Relativist, how far does the immunity go?
    All the way until impeachment + conviction by Congress?
    jorndoe

    Immunity applies to any acts that are part of his official duties. For example, he can't be prosecuted for illegally firing people, illegally withholding funds from universities, or violating the Posse Comitatus Act (ordering the National Guard to enforce the law). He's done all these things.

    He could have been convicted for his 2020 election fraud, when he wasn't in office. He was indicted for this, but it was dropped when he became President because (it has been decided years ago) any prosecution would interfere with his official duties.

    He could certainly be impeached for any of the crimes he's committed, and it Dems control the House after the 2026 elections, they may do that. GOP won't, because Trump controls them. Regardless, even if impeached, he won't be convicted because it requires 2/3 of Senate.

    It's going to be a long 4 years.
  • frank
    18k

    We basically won't have a CDC in 2028. Aaaaaaaah!
  • Relativist
    3.2k
    The damage to the DOJ is also concerning. For that matter, Trump is endeavoring to hire only MAGAs for all government jobs:

    "...questions, outlined under the administration’s Merit Hiring Plan, ask candidates how they would “advance the president’s executive orders and policy priorities,” and to name “one or two executive orders or policy initiatives that are significant to you,” and how candidates will help implement them if hired."
    --
    https://marylandmatters.org/2025/08/25/opm-trumps-hiring-questions-mandatory-to-ask-but-optional-to-answer/
  • frank
    18k

    And he keeps trying to use the military for domestic crime issues. I wonder if that will feel normal in 2028.
  • Paine
    2.9k

    As in so many matters, the permission granted in those orders is contingent upon whether or not Congress resumes the power granted to it by the Constitution. The illegality of ignoring existing statutes is not enough, although a helpful stumbling block going forward.
  • Relativist
    3.2k

    My prediction: he will not send troops to a city, like Chicago, because that would be a blatant violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. He can, and will, send the National Guard to places like New Orleans - where the Governor invites him, since the law allows it. He will then blame Democratic governors for not inviting him and letting their crime rates continue. The whole thing is political theater. This cannot solve a city's crime problem because it can only be temporary. At best, crime will be down temporarily.
  • Tzeentch
    4.3k
    My prediction: he will not send troops to a city, like Chicago, because that would be a blatant violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.Relativist

    But Trump is Hitler, and America is becoming fascist!
  • frank
    18k
    The whole thing is political theater.Relativist

    I agree. I'm just trying to see the point. Trump says crime is out of control in DC when the statistics say the opposite. He then sends in the National Guard. Whether this is the point or not, it gets people used to the idea that a military body is rightly used for domestic issues.

    What do you think the goal is?
  • Relativist
    3.2k
    I don't assume a master plan - he's not that smart. I think the goal is to stoke his ego. He's playing to his supporters, who perceive him as a tough guy who gets things done ("only I can fix it").
  • frank
    18k

    I'm sure that's true, but the control he presently has isn't so much his doing. People flocked to him with lists of supporters to plant in government jobs, like project 2025? You think I'm overthinking it?
  • Relativist
    3.2k
    You're right about that. He's executing Project 2025 to create a MAGA "deep state". People like Stephen Miller are the real strategists, and they know how to play Trump.
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