At this point we should change this thread to genocide apologism”. — Mikie

Great idea — the Palestinian political leadership has been openly attempting to genocide Israel since its inception: "from the river to the sea."

Case in point of a genocide apologist and Nazi sympathizer.

Right, right, it’s really the PALESTINIANS that are to blame. Cool diversion. May have actually worked two years ago. No one is buying it now. But please keep repeating it, as it drives more people away from the savage regime you defend. :yawn:

You're the genocide apologist and fascist.

Weak doesn't mean good. Going from house to house murdering, raping, and torturing certainly doesn't mean good. Kinda even sounds like genocide, dontcha think?

You're the genocide apologist and fascist. — BitconnectCarlos

:rofl:

Good one.

Going from house to house murdering, raping, and torturing certainly doesn't mean good. — BitconnectCarlos

Pretty awful, actually. Now times that by a couple thousand, and you get the Israeli government. A far greater terrorist organization than Hamas. But be know you can’t see that in your bubble.

Japan only killed ~2800 of us at Pearl Harbor, why did we need to mobilize and kill hundreds of thousands? We should have stopped once we had 2800 Japanese dead. Then we say "war over" and both sides return home in peace.

Israel is a state, but before that, yes, there is a history of Jewish non-state resistance/terror groups.

Japan only killed ~2800 of us at Pearl Harbor, why did we need to mobilize and kill hundreds of thousands? We should have stopped once we had 2800 Japanese dead. Then we say "war over" and both sides return home in peace. — BitconnectCarlos

You've never been in a real fist fight, have you? Don't take that as an insult, most intelligent people never have. Most people alive are not very intelligent. "If you make me bleed, I make you bleed worse. That's the only way to be even." Unfortunately, you can see how it leads to a feedback loop when two unintelligent people (the only people who get into fights) get into a fight.

In short, humanity needs birth restrictions. No man needs to have a child without permission from a royal court or authority. He should be content in his life and labor, and the miracle of existence. If one cannot appreciate something so simple yet so mindbogglingly complex, he has no reason to reproduce, other than ego and primal lust, both of which are the causes of all human suffering.

Religion was a good start, outlawing fornication. But it needs teeth to really realize its true and intended purpose, that purpose being global peace, the end of all war, and even the least among us living dignified lives of contentedness.

Japan — BitconnectCarlos

Yeah, exactly. More sad, tired deflections.

Israel is committing genocide. Has been for 2 years. When you address that by condemning it, you’ll be taken more seriously.

What are you proposing Israel do after 10/7? Is Israel allowed to go after the savages who murdered its civilians in cold blood? Does it have your permission?

"If you make me bleed, I make you bleed worse. That's the only way to be even." Unfortunately, you can see how it leads to a feedback loop when two unintelligent people (the only people who get into fights) get into a fight. — Outlander

This is not a fistfight between two individuals, but a clash of civilizations. My own fight history has no bearing.

This is not a fistfight between two individuals, but a clash of civilizations. My own fight history has no bearing. — BitconnectCarlos

Oh, please. And every time a child chews a piece of gum for the first time it's a grandiose experience of past meets present. Get real. Aggression is the same animal it's always been. A rabid dog that anyone with the guts or means would have put down long ago. It's all the same. We delude ourselves otherwise with false notions of ego and pride. All men were once children, and all men, provided they are not killed, will become decrepit, or, like babies and less than children. Have some sense.

Depending on the context, aggression can be either beneficial or detrimental. Sometimes aggression saves (or would have saved) many lives. It doesn't seem fruitful to me to discuss aggression per se.

Sure. But that’s not what they’re doing, and you know it. So does the rest of the world. Including, shockingly, the majority of the US.

So you're good with Israel targeting Hamas and other terrorist groups who attacked on 10/7? You're ok with Israel destroying Hamas if Hamas refuses to surrender? About 3k Hamas fighters attacked on 10/7, and Hamas had around 40k fighters.

So you're saying you're fine theoretically with Israel destroying groups such as Hamas, but you want fewer civilian casualties and destruction?

You're ok with Israel destroying Hamas — BitconnectCarlos

Since that’s not possible, and thus just an obvious, unfalsifiable, infinitely used pretext for genocide — no. I’m not ok with bullshit excuses.

Why is it not possible?

Also, notice I said "in theory." Are you, in theory, in favor of the destruction of Hamas? Or those who committed the massacre?

Why is it not possible? — BitconnectCarlos

Because as long as Gaza is occupied in an open-air prison, there will be people fighting against it. Understandably. Plus there’s no way to do it. It’s not like destroying a building. Hence why there’s been no criteria for what would constitute the “destruction” of Hamas, and why Hamas is alive and well, now going on 2 years. This genocide will only lead to more members.

But it’s never been a realistic goal anyway. It’s just a pretext to placate apologists for state genocide like you.

Are you, in theory, in favor of the destruction of Hamas? Or those who committed the massacre? — BitconnectCarlos

Both. In theory. But I’d like to see the destruction of the bigger terrorists in Likud.

Both. In theory. But I’d like to see the destruction of the bigger terrorists in Likud. — Mikie

In theory, I'm ok with this. In the absence of Israel's enemies, there's no real justification for the Israeli right.

Because as long as Gaza is occupied in an open-air prison — Mikie

Do you really think this conflict is only about the "occupation" of Gaza and not the "occupation" of Palestine itself?

Historically, resistance movements — even those deeply rooted in a population — can be defeated.