Everything follows the law of physics. We're just a few decades or centuries away from understanding them. — Copernicus
So your argument, that we are all physical beings is based on what you are hoping physics will discover some day. — Metaphysician Undercover
What is your suggestion on that?
If we leave theistic views aside, I'd say it's a complex process that we're too early to understand. The same way the universe came into being or formed planets and oceans and lives. — Copernicus
Indeed. And what other species acts in ways that disturbs the equilibrium so badly that we are concerned it might wipe itself, if not all life, out?The ecosystem has developed in such a way that it doesn’t disturb this equilibrium*.
When we came along, we thought we knew better and disturbed the equilibrium for purposes of internal conflict (within social groups) power struggles and greed. — Punshhh
Fluid dynamics, thermodynamics, and other maths of complexity do a good job of modelling physical processes over all scales. A vortice is a vortice from the level of a Bose-Einstein condensate to a black hole accretion disk. — apokrisis
That’s why I said “usually.” As I understand it, engineering mechanics is the science of phenomena that can be constructed using the principles of lower levels of organization. — T Clark
Laws are laws whether we understand them or not. — Copernicus
The laws of physics are what is stated by physicists according to their understanding. — Metaphysician Undercover
This is, of course, the point of contention for many. As said, it's just a statement of belief. It's not an argument or evidence for that belief. It would be great if anyone presented evidence. I just posted along these lines in another thread. The heat and pressure in a room are measurable things. we use the thermometers and barometers. And we know that heat and pressure are the same thing as the movement of the air molecules. James Clerk Maxwell worked out the math for the average speed of a molecules, what percentage are moving half the average speed, what percentage are moving twice the average speed, etc.IV. Emergence: When Physics Becomes Experience
Though each neuron obeys physical law, the collective pattern of billions of neurons yields subjective experience. This phenomenon, known as emergence, marks the transition from matter behaving mechanically to matter behaving meaningfully.
A single water molecule is not “wet,” yet collective behavior gives rise to wetness. Likewise, a single neuron does not “think,” but structured neural networks do.
Hence, consciousness does not violate physical law—it is physical law in a higher-order configuration. — Copernicus
Weather.gov has more info without going overboard.Tropical storms form from an atmospheric disturbance like a tropical wave or group of thunderstorms. For these disturbances to grow into a tropical cyclone, the following environmental conditions must be in place:
Warm ocean waters (at least 80°F/27°C).
An unstable atmosphere driven by differences in temperature, where temperature decreases with height.
Moist air near the mid-level of the atmosphere.
Must be at least 200 miles (with rare exceptions) north or south of the equator for it to spin (due to the Coriolis effect).
Little change in wind speed or direction with height (known as low vertical wind shear). — NOAA
it's just a statement of belief. It's not an argument or evidence for that belief — Patterner
Consciousness is different — Patterner
Covid19.Indeed. And what other species acts in ways that disturbs the equilibrium so badly that we are concerned it might wipe itself, if not all life, out?
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